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Originally Posted by snazzlefrag
A theory, by definition, is as yet unproven. It is speculative in nature. Were you to actually PROVE it, it would cease to be a theory.
You seem highly oppositional Spazz. Were you a child or an adolescent, I might even suspect an OD Disorder. As an adult, your dismissive opposition to any and all varying viewpoints; your outright rejection of legitimate, well-reasoned, and well-documented alternative ideas; and the combative tone of your responses, come across as merely arrogant, tiresome, and counterproductive.
No reasonable person would reject the notion that "laziness" is very likely a factor in many cases of academic failure at college-level math. However, to rigidly defend your argument that laziness is the ONLY possible factor is just silly. It's not only arrogant, it is intellectually ignorant.
Someone reasonably and rationally tried to explain their differing view point, and you responded that they were making excuses. Someone tried to relate a personal narrative, and you responded by questioning the veracity of her claims. Someone presented you with numerous external links to published research, and you responded by arguing that the research was meaningless because it was "relative, subjective, and not proven mathematically". Someone posted additional peer-reviewed scientific research, and you responded by switching the issue to being about basic arithmetic skills and claiming that you would rather believe a paper published in a "nonsense journal" than an "internet definition". Someone mentioned that your original statement was a "subjective theory" and you even argued about whether it was a theory or not.
This is no longer reasoned argument...it is just argument!
At a certain point, it becomes argument for argument's sake, and the discussion is no longer meaningful. If there is no commitment to reasonable discourse and a genuine meeting of the minds, then further discussion is fruitless and will not be helpful to anyone.
In fairness, I will give you some time to respond, and then I am going to close this thread. It is no longer serving any positive purpose for this community.
Thanks,
Snazzlefrag
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You're correct, nothing can be proven. But the fact that there is sound evidence against something is about as factual as it will become. Lets just say, it becomes accepted by scientists as factual, even though eventually it might be disproven. But anyway, that is beyond the point.
Everyone has the right to their opinion, do you not agree? Everything I posted, everyone critqued, so if you say I responded with excuses etc. Then you're right, I responded with my opinion.
I do not believe I said laziness is the ONLY problem, but it is a big problem. But again laziness is a relative term. I believe lack of motivation and effort also causes people to have math problems. As you can see, one could say lack of motivation and effort are the bread and butter of laziness? It is purely relative. One might be a very hard worker, but his motivation for doing math for whatever reason is simply not there.
Although, I believe a lot of americans at least blame their problems on silly disorders. It is easier to cast excuses on your problems then to actually take them by the horns and fix whatever is causing the problems. To put in terms you might understand, I think this is a major "disorder" of american society. That is why the US is often called the prozac nation.
But anyway, I believe this was a nice orderly off-topic discussion. I see no reason to lock it, but ofcourse it remains up to you!