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    Default New to the forum, looking for some advice on BA CS vs BA Math

    I have not applied to TESU yet, but I'm highly considering it due to my living situation and expenses.

    I plan to either use a BA in Math or Computer Science as a stepping stone to apply for Oregon State's Post-Bacc CS Program or OMSCS at Georgia Tech. However I'm not sure which plan would take the least amount of time. Should I go with the math plan? If I complete the BA in Comp Sci I won't be able to apply for OSU since they do not allow applicants who already have a CS degree.

    I found a degree plan for math here: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20120627134051

    I am also wondering if this plan is up to date. And lastly, is it fine with I complete SL and other testing credit before I apply? Thanks.

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    It appears Boston University has either postponed or discontinued the edX courses in math, which would have given you three of the required five upper level courses. Because of that, you will have to take five UL math courses at TESU or some other four-year school. Linear algebra, multivariable calc, and differential equations all count as UL credit if taken at a four year school. APU has a good selection of UL math classes including true UL math courses like real analysis. I think there are lots of options out there for UL math courses.

    As far as TESU CS, the fastest plan has three MIS/cybersecurity exams which aren't good preparation for OMSCS or highly technical jobs. It also includes linear algebra which will be useful at OMSCS. It's very tough to find cheaper online CS courses that count as UL (honestly, I don't know where you could find any UL CS outside of TESU without spending more than TESU tuition). The UL CS TESU courses won't help much in surviving the tech interviews which is the most important factor in getting a job. TESU BA CS is ideal for experienced IT folks who just need a CS degree for HR purposes. On the other hand, I don't think it's great option for those who don't have a lot of IT job experience.

    My signature has the degree plan I used to double major in CS and math. You might find it helpful.
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    TESU BA CS and Math (graduated December 2016)
    Courses/exams for both CS and Math: SL Calc 1, SL Calc 2, APU Linear algebra, TESU capstone
    Courses/exams for CS: TESU Computer Architecture, DSST MIS, DSST cybersecurity, CSU-Global System Analysis, rest B&M courses from the past
    Courses/exams: TESU College Geometry, TESU Mathematical Modeling, edX differential equations (2 courses), rest B&M courses from the past

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunr View Post
    It appears Boston University has either postponed or discontinued the edX courses in math, which would have given you three of the required five upper level courses. Because of that, you will have to take five UL math courses at TESU or some other four-year school. Linear algebra, multivariable calc, and differential equations all count as UL credit if taken at a four year school. APU has a good selection of UL math classes including true UL math courses like real analysis. I think there are lots of options out there for UL math courses.

    As far as TESU CS, the fastest plan has three MIS/cybersecurity exams which aren't good preparation for OMSCS or highly technical jobs. It also includes linear algebra which will be useful at OMSCS. It's very tough to find cheaper online CS courses that count as UL (honestly, I don't know where you could find any UL CS outside of TESU without spending more than TESU tuition). The UL CS TESU courses won't help much in surviving the tech interviews which is the most important factor in getting a job. TESU BA CS is ideal for experienced IT folks who just need a CS degree for HR purposes. On the other hand, I don't think it's great option for those who don't have a lot of IT job experience.

    My signature has the degree plan I used to double major in CS and math. You might find it helpful.
    Okay, so I'm maybe leaning towards BA Math as I think that gives me the best chance at applying for either OSU post-bacc or OMSCS. I'm also doing supplementary online edX courses for CS on the side. I just need the TESU Math degree to get me a foot in the door.

    As for needing to take 5 UL courses at TESU or at another college, that won't be a problem. The main selling point to me is completing all Gen Ed classes and some UL classes by testing out or SL. I took a look at your plan, what were the 3 differential equation courses you did for Boston edX?

    I already completed a Calculus I course at a 4 year university, would that count as UL credit? Would taking the 5 required math courses at a four year school also count? Also is there a recent degree plan for Gen Ed requirements or would I need to make that myself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunr View Post
    As far as TESU CS, the fastest plan has three MIS/cybersecurity exams which aren't good preparation for OMSCS or highly technical jobs. It also includes linear algebra which will be useful at OMSCS. It's very tough to find cheaper online CS courses that count as UL (honestly, I don't know where you could find any UL CS outside of TESU without spending more than TESU tuition).
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    Quote Originally Posted by zabimaru1000 View Post

    I already completed a Calculus I course at a 4 year university, would that count as UL credit? Would taking the 5 required math courses at a four year school also count? Also is there a recent degree plan for Gen Ed requirements or would I need to make that myself?
    The calc 1 and 2 courses are not UL regardless of where you took it. After calc 1 and calc 2, the difficulty of math courses goes way up and becomes much more abstract. You can take the five required UL courses at another 4-year school as long as you're prepared to pay the $2k residency waiver fee at graduation.

    Someone else more well versed with GE can assist you with GE requirements. I did not complete any GE for my TESU degree (2nd bachelors) so I'm not the best person to ask.
    TESU BA CS and Math (graduated December 2016)
    Courses/exams for both CS and Math: SL Calc 1, SL Calc 2, APU Linear algebra, TESU capstone
    Courses/exams for CS: TESU Computer Architecture, DSST MIS, DSST cybersecurity, CSU-Global System Analysis, rest B&M courses from the past
    Courses/exams: TESU College Geometry, TESU Mathematical Modeling, edX differential equations (2 courses), rest B&M courses from the past

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    Given your grad school plans, make sure you take Discrete Math as well. I think getting a math degree is a good move- in addition to the intellectual challenge, it gives you some career flexibility as well.

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    The Oregon Post-Bacc program is expensive and takes a quite a bit of time. I'd go for either of the TESU BA Math or BACS, and take courses at a local brick and mortar to fulfill the UL CS requirements. OMSCS will take you so long as you have a Bachelor's and the proper CS courses and/or experience. Most employers won't care about your degree as much as how you do on the interview.

    You might also look at Computer science - Fort Hays State University. I have no experience or information beyond what they have on their website. They might be a source of UL CS credits or even your whole degree.
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