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    Old 01-02-2008, 06:12 PM
    BMWGuinness BMWGuinness is offline
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    Default Please post which Certifications/Training courses translated into Big 3 courses

    In an effort to help upcoming students who have not enrolled figure out which external certs/training count toward college courses, I'd like to start this thread as a reference.

    This should help people (like me) determine which schools will best fit their specific needs.

    I'll start with some information I've run across.

    Please note, this is for Specific Courses, not just amount of credit.

    This is from TESC regarding CompTIA A+, Network+, and i-net+

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    CompTIA A+ will receive 2 credits in Windows. CAP-171 Windows is our equivalency. CompTIA Network+ will receive 2 credits in Networks. CAP-181 Networks is our equivalency. We have not reviewed Comptia i-net+ for credit.

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    We award 10 credits for MCSE, 2 credits for CompTIA Network + and 2 credits for CompTIA A+. The credits for A+ duplicate some of the credit in MCSE. CAP-181 Networks, CAP-282 LAN Administration and CAP382 Advanced LAN Administration can be used as CIS electives

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    The credits awarded for the MCDBA are CIS-311 Database Management - 4 credits and CAP-181 Networks - 3 credits

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    MCSD awards CAP-206 Business Oriented Programming Techniques - 4 Credits and Visual Basic - 3 credits

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    Old 01-06-2008, 09:44 PM
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    I've sent an email to TESC regarding CompTIA Security+ and Microsoft MCP, MCSA, MCSE, and MCDBA. Hopefully I will get some feedback.
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    Old 01-07-2008, 06:25 AM
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    I’m not sure if this is what you’re looking for but here it goes; Listed below are the credits that were transferred into Excelsior, BS in Liberal Studies.

    Microsoft Certification

    70-218 - Applied Professional Depth 2 - 2.00
    70-220 - Applied Professional Depth 2 - 2.00 – Upper Level
    70-217 - Applied Professional Depth 2 - 2.00 - Upper Level
    70-219 - Applied Professional Depth 2 - 3.00 - Upper Level
    70-216 - Applied Professional - 2.00

    Cisco Examination

    640-801 - Applied Professional - 3.00
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    Old 01-07-2008, 07:57 AM
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    Thanks, but I was actually looking for the specific courses they translate to.

    For anyone looking, here is a list of the AMOUNT of credits that respective certifications are worth

    https://www.excelsior.edu/Excelsior_...ICATION_CREDIT

    Thomas Edison State College | Other Licenses and Certifications

    By the way, what is the difference between AP and AP Depth 2??
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    Old 01-07-2008, 08:21 AM
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    Ap is just an Applied Professional credit and I can't explain Depth 2, however, Snazzlefrag explains it well in this thread: http://www.instantcertonline.com/for...ighlight=depth
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    Old 01-07-2008, 08:47 AM
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    I just added some more information to the original post, awaiting feedback on the MCDBA and the MCSD.
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    Old 01-07-2008, 12:50 PM
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    In my case, for TESC's BSBA CIS Program, My CompTIA A+, CompTIA Network+, MCSE, and MCDBA fulfill 13/18 requirements toward the CIS Major option, but they do not fulfill the Programming Language and Systems Analysis and Design requirements, an additional 3 credits would fulfill Business Electives.

    However, I am looking into seeing if Penn Foster (ACE Certified) has transferrable Self-Paced classes that would adhere to the requirements.

    The BMI for Excelsior (Business MIS) is almost the exact opposite. 5/18 requirements toward the MIS Major are fulfilled, and an additional 10-11 credits fulfill Business Electives.

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    Old 01-07-2008, 02:06 PM
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    I am enrolled at Excelsior for the BS-MIS. hopefully this will help someone. Not sure if this is more what you are looking for.

    Comptia - all credit marked as Business, Core Requirement (II), and Concentration (X), except Network+ marked (IC)

    A+ 2 credits
    NETWORK+ 2 credits satisfied requirement for "Data Communications or Telecommunications or Networking"
    I-NET+ 4 credits

    Microsoft - all credit marked as Business, Core Requirement (II), and Concentration (X)

    70*059 2 credits UL credit INTERNETWORKING WITH MICROSOFT TCP/IP ON MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT 4.0
    70*081 1 credit IMPLEMENTING & SUPPORTING MS EXCHANGE SERVER 5.5
    70*088 1 credit IMPLEMENTING & SUPPORTING MS PROXY SERVER 2.0
    70*087 2 credits UL credit IMPLEMENTING & SUPPORTING MS INTERNET INFORMATION SERVER 4.0
    70*080 1 credit IMPLETG & SUPRT MS INTRNT EXPLR 5.0 BY USING THE INTRNT EXPLR ADMIN KIT
    70*217 2 credits UL credit IMPLMTG & ADMIN AN MS WINDOWS 2000 DRCTY SERVICES INFRASTRUCTURE
    70*219 3 credits UL credit DESIGNING AN MS WINDOWS 2000 DIRECTORY SERVICES INFRASTRUCTURE
    70*216 2 credits IMPLEMENTING & ADMINISTERING AN MS WINDOWS 2000 NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE
    70*270 1 credit INSTLG, CONFIG, & ADMIN MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL

    I asked EC about the coding on the Status Reports and the Network+ here is their response

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    CompTia certification exam Network + does satisfy the Networking requirement. The Microsoft certification and remaining Comp Tia certification exams you completed are all Management of Information Systems electives, and do not satisfy the concentration subjects. The code of II symbolizes a Management of Information Systems elective.


    I had asked if any MS cert would qualify for the Database Management requirement:

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    MST*254 would not satisfy the Database Management requirement. None of the Microsoft certifications exams would satisfy the Database Management requirement. The Database Management course would need to include introduction to database management systems, review of logical and physical database, data independence, elimination of data redundancy, security, comparison of hierarchical, and relational and network models. Actual use of at least one database management system is highly recommended.
    You could take one of the following online courses for Database Management:

    Athabasca University
    Athabasca University - Canada's Leader in Online & Distance Education
    COMP*378: Introduction to Database Management

    Limestone College
    Limestone College Virtual Campus Home Page
    CST*305: Database Management

    Park University
    Park University - Online, Undergraduate, and Graduate Degrees
    CS*360: Database Management


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    None of the certifications you have completed would satisfy the BMI concentration subjects. You could take the following ICCP exams for the BMI concentration subjects:

    Business Programming Language - COBOL, Pascal, C or C++ Language
    Database Management - Data Base Administration
    Systems Analysis and Design - Object Oriented Analysis and Design or Systems Development

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    Our faculty has reviewed the ICCP: IT Core exam, and you would receive the following:

    2 lower level credits in Introduction to System Analysis - satisfies the System Analysis and Design requirement
    2 lower level credits in Introduction to Database Management - satisfies the Database Management requirement

    The rest of the credits from the ICCP: IT Core exam would duplicate credit on your Status Report, or be excess business credits.




    I did get approval from EC for two Penn Foster Courses

    Satisfies the Systems Analysis and Design requirement

    CIS240 - Systems Design (3 credits) - ACE Course Number: ICS-0031Role of the systems analyst in developing business applications; hierarchy charts; IPO; decision tables; structured English.

    Satisfies the Business Programming Language

    CSC218 - Visual Basic® .NET (3 credits) - ACE Course Number: ICS-0164
    Introduction to Visual Basic® and managing controls; dialog boxes and controls; nature of Visual Basic® programs; Visual Basic® forms, files, and output; graphics, multimedia, and form templates; ActiveX and ADO controls; Internet access, Help files, and distributing programs; multidimensional arrays and the Windows® API.
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    Old 01-07-2008, 02:11 PM
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    Awesome! This is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for your help!

    Those 2 Penn Foster courses should also fulfill the TESC CIS Required courses.

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    ICS0028 - 2 credits systems analysis CIS320
    ICS0031 - 1 credit general CIS electives CIS499

    Together, these can satisfy the Systems Analysis and Design requirement.

    ICS0019 Computer Programming can satisfy the programming language
    ICS0040 Comp Lit and BASIC gives 3 credits BASIC which will satisfy the programming language, and 2 credits of general CIS electives
    ICS0023 BASIC gives 3 credits BASIC, which will duplicate the 3 credits of BASIC in ICS0040
    ICS0164 VIsual Basic gives 3 credits Visual Basic, which will satisfy the programming language requirements.


    I think this is great news for anyone with IT Certifications looking to attain a Business or Technical degree.

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    Old 01-08-2008, 04:54 PM
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    Thanks, but I was actually looking for the specific courses they translate to.

    For anyone looking, here is a list of the AMOUNT of credits that respective certifications are worth

    https://www.excelsior.edu/Excelsior_...ICATION_CREDIT

    Update! Please reference the Student Guide to Credit by Exam at EC & The Assessment Catalog (wait for the pdf to load)
    https://www.excelsior.edu/Excelsior_College/My_Excelsior_College/Excelsior_College_Publications_Request?_piref57_79 541_57_79535_79535.next_page=MatReqActLog&_piref57 _79541_57_79535_79535.PDFLink=/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/EXCELSIOR_COLLEGE/MY_EXCELSIOR_COLLEGE/PUBLICATIONS/Student_Guide_and_Assessment_Catalog.pdf&_piref57_ 79541_57_79535_79535.matCodeP=ASSESS

    They have a more up to date reference
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