Hello everyone.

Does anyone know if TESC will accept Penn Fosters -

ENG121 Business and Technical Writing
(3 credits) to satisfy the Managerial/Business Communications Requirement?

The course description for the above course sounds similar to the description for the Managerial Communications (MAN 373) that is listed on TESC's website.

This is the description for the Penn Foster Course Below:

Writing styles; ABC method of organizing
material; grammar (parts of speech, active
and passive voice, complete sentences vs.
sentence fragments; parallel construction);
using action verbs; constructing
paragraphs; writing memos, business
letters, and emails; organizing material;
conducting research; documenting sources;
outlining; providing illustrations; writing
reports, proposals, descriptions,
instructions, articles, and manuals.

Or what what about this one:
HUM106 Interpersonal Communication
(1 credit)

Developing more effective personal
communication skills to increase chances
for professional success; increasing skills
levels involving the use and selection of
words, gestures, tone of voice, facial
expressions, listening skills, as well as

overall physical appearance. PREREQ: None

*On PFC's site, they list this course under 3 credits for the Business Degree, which is what I am majoring in.*

My only options thus far are PFC or my local community college. The only problem with the CC is that alot of the courses I picked that might correspond to TESC's Managerial/Business Communications Requirement, all have Pre-req's.

Worst case scenario I have some calls to make. I will just go talk to an advisor at the CC to see if there is anyway around the pre-req issue. And I will make sure to email TESC to see which of the 4 or 5 classes that I picked will satisfy that requirement. Then I'll call or email PFC to see what their costs & fees are to take individual courses. Whoever is cheaper is who I am going with.

By the way...if anybody knows what the fees/tuition rates are for the following courses @ PFC, please let me know:

* Business Communications - ICS-0041 (ACE#)
*Managerial Accounting(ACC-112) - ICS-0048 (ACE#)
*Financial Accounting(ACC-111) - ICS-0047 (ACE#)

Just want to see if PFC will be cheaper than my CC. My CC charges $45 per credit hour. Then I have to add in books et cetera. I heard all PFC materials are included. Just trying to crunch some numbers.


Any help, advice, suggestions I can get will be greatly appreciated.

From a loyal degree seeker,

Marshall

__________________
Marshall L. Williams IV
Thomas Edison State College (not enrolled yet)
A.S.B.A (30 credits down, 30 to go)
B.S.B.A General Management (48 credits down, 72 to go)

CLEPS TAKEN:
*Social Sciences & History (60) - 4/01/2008
*Principles of Management (68) - 4/21
*Principles of Marketing (72) - 4/30
*Introductory Sociology (69) - 5/05
*Financial Accounting (53) - 5/29
*Introductory Psychology (66) - 6/23
*Introduction to Educational Psychology (56) -7/01
*Human Growth & Development (59) - 7/08
*English Composition w/essay (49) - 7/10
*Analyzing & Interpreting Lit (64) - 7/22

OTHER CREDITS:
*25 FEMA (raw)

Quotes:
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us" - Oliver Wendell Holmes
"Things which matter most must never be at the mercy of things which matter least." - Goethe

Well, its ACE approved.

ACE | National Guide Online - Business & Technical Writing (ENG 121) ICS-0197 #71566

TESC has a standing policy to accept all ACE approved courses, so sayeth their catalog. The question is if it will satisfy that specific requirment. Call your advisor on Monday and ask.

__________________
CLEP & DSST Passed:
Principles of Management, Human Resources Management, Organizational Behavior, Statistics, Accounting, Marketing, Management Information Systems, Macroeconomics, Microeconomics

Earned:
B.A. in Business Administration: Technology Management (magna cum laude) from Saint Leo University

In Progress:
M.S. in Leadership and Business Ethics from Duquesne University (18 credits completed, 6 credits in progress)

As far as i know, PFC courses are 55 per credit, and include textbooks.

I know you can enroll in Individual courses, I am just not sure if you can enroll in more than one at a time.

PFC is now $60 a credit.

__________________
TESC - BSBA - Computer Information Systems
S.H. Required – 120
S.H. Applied – 77.3
S.H. Remaining – 42.7

Transferred Credits
Winona St. University – 9.3
Kean College – 37
Chubb Institute – 16

TESC Taken
Eng Comp I (OL) – A
Eng Comp II (TECEP) – Pass
Bus. Law (OL) – A
Quant. Business Analysis (OL) – A
Business Letter & Report Writing I (PLA) - Pass

TESC Planned
Statistics(OL) – Sep ‘08
File Management (PLA) - Dec '08
Business Report Writing II (PLA) – Feb ‘09
Microeconomis (OL) - May '09
Principles of Finance (OL) – Sep ‘09
Business in Society (PLA) – Sep ‘09
Principles of Managerial Accounting (OL) – Jan ‘10
Leadership Communication (OL) – Jan ‘10
Business Policy (OL) – April ‘10
Cost Accounting (OL) – April ‘10

CLEP/DSST Exams
Principles of Marketing – 76
Principles of Management – Jan ‘09
Management Information Systems – Feb ‘09

Penn Foster
Structured Systems Analysis – July ‘08 - A
System Design - July '08 - A

PFC will run about $200.00 a class W/Materials and you can knock them out quickly!

If they are ACE approved , have ace do a transcript and have them send it to TESC, should be 40.00 bucks for the transcript fess. and TESC will accept them.

Marshall,

Were you able to determine if that course would fulfil the Communications requirement?

__________________
Joe

CLEP
Princ. of Management 74, Intro to Sociology 65, US History I 72, Princ. of Marketing 67, Business Law I 66, Macroeconomics 68, Microeconomics 65, A&I Lit 74
DSST
Princ. of Supervision 69, Statistics 63, MIS 65, Intro to Computers 64, Criminal Justice 57, Law Enforcement 66, Ethics 72, Princ. of Financial Accounting 67.
ECE
Organizational Behavior B, Ethics A

Hello everyone and thanks for the feedback.

Since I've changed my major from the BSBA to the BA in Communications, I have no need for the classes listed earlier. However I will still check to see if I can use the Business Communications course to fulfill one of my core requirements. Although I seriously doubt TESC will accept both DSST Technical Writing and Business Communications as core requirements since they are relatively the same course.

{Epiphany} No I haven't checked with as of yet, I probably won't until September.

From a loyal degree seeker,

Marshall

__________________
Marshall L. Williams IV
Thomas Edison State College (not enrolled yet)
A.S.B.A (30 credits down, 30 to go)
B.S.B.A General Management (48 credits down, 72 to go)

CLEPS TAKEN:
*Social Sciences & History (60) - 4/01/2008
*Principles of Management (68) - 4/21
*Principles of Marketing (72) - 4/30
*Introductory Sociology (69) - 5/05
*Financial Accounting (53) - 5/29
*Introductory Psychology (66) - 6/23
*Introduction to Educational Psychology (56) -7/01
*Human Growth & Development (59) - 7/08
*English Composition w/essay (49) - 7/10
*Analyzing & Interpreting Lit (64) - 7/22

OTHER CREDITS:
*25 FEMA (raw)

Quotes:
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us" - Oliver Wendell Holmes
"Things which matter most must never be at the mercy of things which matter least." - Goethe