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  • GRE Subject Tests

    There seems to be a growing interest in utilizing GRE Subject Tests for credit. Hopefully this will answer some questions of those who are unfamiliar with these tests.

    GRE Subject Test official homepage: GRE Subject Tests Overview

    The tests are in eight different subject areas:
    *Biochemistry, Cell and Molecular Biology
    *Biology
    *Chemistry
    *Computer Science
    *Literature in English
    *Mathematics
    *Physics
    *Psychology

    These tests are traditionally used as an entrance exam into a Master's program in the relevant subject area. They cover an entire major's worth of information in the subject. Some colleges will award credit at the undergraduate level for them.

    The three colleges that will accept them for such purposes are:

    1) Excelsior College (www.excelsior.edu) awards anywhere from 3 to 30 credits in the subject area. The minimum score to earn credit is the 35%ile for 3 credits. You must score over the 80%ile to collect the full 30 credits. The first 12 credits are lower level, all additional credit earned is upper level.

    2) Charter Oak State College (Charter Oak State College - distance learning college, online degrees, courses) awards credit in the subject area at a score of 40%ile. 18 credits are awards for Psychology or Literature. 24 credits are awards for all other subject areas. It doesn't matter if a score of 40% or 90% is made. The credit awarded is the same. The one test they will not accept is the Biochemistry subject test.

    3) Empire State College (www.esc.edu) has both the "lowest payoff score" as well as the "highest payoff score." They will award between 6 credits and 36 credits. A score between the 20%ile and 29%ile will get you 6 credits. A score of 96%ile will get 36 credits.

    Empire State College does have a residency requirement, but are also fairly liberal in testing policies. The cap on credit-by-exam is 96 credits, (aka 24 credit residency).

    Excelsior and Charter Oak both offer degrees that can be tested out of completely. With Excelsior, a high enough score will take care of virtually all the requirements for the major in the subject area. Charter Oak might be the way to go if you want to maximize credits with the GRE Subject Exam, but doubt you can pull out a very high score.
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    DSST exams passed:
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    GRE Mathematics

    A Mathematics major at Excelsior is a little different, since 33 credits are required for that particular one. So, as is my habit to pester advisers, I sent an email asking what else would be required to major in Math, assuming one could score high enough on the GRE. Here's my reply:

    Greetings, Alissa -

    Thank you so much for your kind words and support of Excelsior College!

    To answer your question, a student would need to score at least a 780 on the Mathematics GRE in order to earn the full 33 credits required for that major.

    I hope this is helpful, but please let us know if you have any other questions about your degree program, or any other in the School of Liberal Arts.

    I hope you enjoy a safe, peaceful and happy holiday!

    Best wishes, Tamara R. Garrison, Academic Adviser

    Previous Message:
    Hi! I have to satisfy my own curiosity about something. Someone I know is interested in the GRE Mathematics to test out of a major, after seeing my success with the GRE Psychology. That particular major seems to require 33 credits? If a person were to score high enough on the Math GRE, what would they need to do for those last three credits required? I am pretty much trying to convince everyone I know to enroll. Thank you for your time!
    ~~ Alissa~~
    "Whether you think you can or think you canít, youíre right." - - Henry Ford
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    • #3
      Biology-Chemistry-Physics-Math

      I wanted to add some additional info for these majors which require labs for the degree. This is a general breakdown of whats needed for comparison purposes,check the catalog/school for detailed info.

      EC-Biology- 2 labs,1 upper level+70%tile GRE= Major
      Chemistry-4 labs,1 upper level+60%tile GRE=Major
      Physics-2 labs,1 upper level+70%tile GRE=Major
      Math-12 credits+66%GRE=Major

      Charter Oak-Biology-12 credits (2 must be UL labs)+40%tile GRE=Major
      Chemistry-12 credits (2 must be UL labs,one must be in
      instrumentation)+40%tile GRE=Major
      Physics-12 credits(6 at UL)+40% percentile GRE=Major
      Math-12 beyond freshman(6 at UL)+40% percentile=Major

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      • #4
        Psychology and Literature should be easy .

        Psychology GRE and Literature should be easy to score in the higher percentile.



        Originally posted by Blitzstudie
        I wanted to add some additional info for these majors which require labs for the degree. This is a general breakdown of whats needed for comparison purposes,check the catalog/school for detailed info.

        EC-Biology- 2 labs,1 upper level+70%tile GRE= Major
        Chemistry-4 labs,1 upper level+60%tile GRE=Major
        Physics-2 labs,1 upper level+70%tile GRE=Major
        Math-12 credits+66%GRE=Major

        Charter Oak-Biology-12 credits (2 must be UL labs)+40%tile GRE=Major
        Chemistry-12 credits (2 must be UL labs,one must be in
        instrumentation)+40%tile GRE=Major
        Physics-12 credits(6 at UL)+40% percentile GRE=Major
        Math-12 beyond freshman(6 at UL)+40% percentile=Major
        CLEP

        Intro to Psychology- 50
        Intro to Sociology- 64
        Natural Sciences - 53
        Humanities - 61
        History of US I - 59
        Social Sciences & History - 54
        Western Civilization I - 67
        Western Civilization II- 57
        Principles of Mgmt- 53



        DANTES

        Rise and Fall of Soviet Union - 54
        Intro to Middle East- 56
        Intro to World Religions- 74
        Intro to Computing - 53
        Principles of Supervision- 51
        Mgmt Info Sys- 53
        Intro to Buisness- 59
        Buisness Mathematics-56
        American Ethics-51

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        • #5
          Does anyone know how much Upper level credits are awarded for GREs by Charter Oak?

          I looked at the Master List of Exams 2009 but the Level column just states "L,U". How does the actual score determine the mix?

          List of Exams at Charter Oak State College

          thanks

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          • #6
            The first 15 hours are lower level and the rest (9 hours for natural science/math exams; 3 hours for social sciences/humanities exams) are upper level.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jonasling
              How does the actual score determine the mix?
              It doesn't...at 40, you get them all.

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              • #8
                craftkc10,

                Thank you much for your replies. What's the best coaching web site or prep books for GREs?

                cheers!

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                • #9
                  I’m glad you’re interested in the GREs, too.

                  Alissa found another forum for people who are studying for the GREs: GRE Subject Tests - TestMagic Forums

                  She has also posted more resources for studying for the GREs in the Specific Exam Feedback section.
                  Last edited by NAP; 02-17-2009, 04:01 PM.
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                  Practice Tests - Available for CLEP and DSST

                  * Link posted with permission from forum admin; thank you!

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for link, NAP.

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                    • #11
                      Does anyone know what courses the GRE CS will substitute for? Or can you pick which classes you want to have the credit applied to?

                      Thank you for all this info, it is extremely helpful!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JLA_8
                        Does anyone know what courses the GRE CS will substitute for? Or can you pick which classes you want to have the credit applied to?

                        Thank you for all this info, it is extremely helpful!!!
                        I do not know which courses the GRE Comp. Sci. will duplicate, but I do know that you do not get to choose which courses you would like to have it applied to. The GRE is awarded as bulk credit, and the individual courses are not listed out separately, and I think Excelsior will deduct whatever you already have from the GRE credit.

                        Example transcript entry:

                        GRE Subject Exams
                        (690) Computer Science...........12LL..........Pass
                        (690) Computer Science...........18UL.........Pass

                        So you must aim for a score higher than any credits you have already accumulated in order to avoid having the whole thing be a wash because of duplication. That goes for all the GREs. They are a bit cryptic about which courses will duplicate because there doesn't appear to be a strict list of what will or will not duplicate. It depends on what you already have. Say, if you have already passed CLEP Intro. to Comp. Apps. and I have passed the DSST Intro. to Computers, and we both score at the 35th percentile on the GRE. Even though these are different credits that we have, we will neither one receive credit from the GRE, because we both have lower level duplicate credit.

                        Also, to answer another question earlier in this thread about which study guides to use. The Princeton Review "Cracking the GRE Subject exam..." books are almost always recommended by former test takers for all the GRE exams, and I have found them to be helpful for psychology and literature both so far. If you are only going to purchase one study guide, it should probably be the Princeton Review one.
                        Last edited by alissaroot; 03-02-2009, 04:10 AM.
                        ~~ Alissa~~
                        "Whether you think you can or think you canít, youíre right." - - Henry Ford
                        DONE:
                        BS Liberal Studies, Excelsior College May 2009

                        Current website favorite:
                        http://www.careeronestop.org/

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                        • #13
                          Thank you very much Alissa for the detailed explanation.

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                          • #14
                            Reply from EC

                            "The GRE Computer Science exam can award credit, however it will all be
                            score specific.

                            Here is the break-down for the Computer Science GRE:

                            685 score: 3 LL credits satisfying the Intro to Computers ( IT
                            elective)
                            700 score: 6 LL credits satisfying above plus High Level Language (
                            IT elective)
                            715 score: 9 LL credits satisfying above plus a second High Level
                            Language ( IT elective)
                            730 score: 12 LL credits satisfying above plus Discrete Math (math
                            requirement)
                            745 score: 12 LL credits, 3 UL credits satisfying above plus Data
                            Structures (one of the Object Oriented Software concentration core)
                            760 score: 12 LL credits, 6 UL credits satisfying above plus
                            Computer Architecture ( core requirement)
                            770 score: 12 LL credits, 9 UL credits satisfying above plus
                            Operating Systems (core requirement)
                            780 score: 12 LL credits, 12 UL credits satisfying above plus UL
                            technical elective
                            810 or higher: 12 LL credits and 18 UL credits."

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                            • #15
                              Awesome! This will definitely make it easier to plan for exams, especially if someone were to fall a bit short of the 80th percentile. I wonder why they did not respond this clearly when I asked about psychology or literature duplication. Perhaps I will have to phrase my questions better.

                              Thank you so much for sharing this.

                              I am off to find out if I can get a list like this for Psychology or Literature!
                              ~~ Alissa~~
                              "Whether you think you can or think you canít, youíre right." - - Henry Ford
                              DONE:
                              BS Liberal Studies, Excelsior College May 2009

                              Current website favorite:
                              http://www.careeronestop.org/

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