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    Old 06-03-2008, 09:21 PM
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    Default USAF Troop - Needs 40 credits for EDUC. Waiver

    I'm currently in the USAF. I need 90 total credits to qualify for an education waiver to get into Officer Candidate School. My goal is to become a pilot and to do so I need to be a commissioned officer.

    I'm scheduled for 30 hours over the summer and fall semesters and need an additional 40 hours by December.

    1st Question: Is this possible? If so how?

    2nd Question: Do some CLEP tests cancel out some DSST test or are the credits still accounted for? (ex. Natural Sciences: CLEP and the DSST Physical Science - Would I get credit for each test )

    Thanks for any help. I'm on a short time table and need all the help I can get. My age is the factor in this little problem. I can't start Flight Training after I turn 30 and I turn 29 in September 08.

    Please help.

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    Old 06-03-2008, 09:39 PM
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    In the USAF already posted my situation in the general questions thread.

    I need as many Study Guides as possible to suit this problem. Please help.

    I will take any and all available. Need 40 credits by December or sooner. Thanks so much and God Bless.
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    Old 06-03-2008, 10:31 PM
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    40 SH by December is VERY achievable. If you go to a school that accepts FEMA credits (EC or TESC), you can earn 30 or so right there in a matter of days. Then 2 CLEPs worth 6 SH each and you'll be done. Or one 6er and 2 other ones.

    For your second question, I'm pretty sure they'll cancel each other out. I earned credits for Principles of Management through the Army, and then took the CLEP, but my school only gave me credit for one.

    I'd recommend Analyzing and Interpreting Literature to start you off. Then you could take Intro to Sociology and Intro to Computing and there's another 12, putting you over what you need.

    It seems like you want it bad enough, so I'm sure you'll have no problems.
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    Old 06-03-2008, 10:54 PM
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    sociology, marketing, and management cleps are all easily done in a matter of days and you may already have a background in these subjects.

    try any and all you can. remember you just have to pass-you only need to know the minimal subject matter.
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    Old 06-03-2008, 11:25 PM
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    40 credits? No problem!

    I've done the tests you see below my signature (30 credits I think) since the end of Feb. I could certainly go a little faster if life didn't keep getting in the way. There are people here doing 30 credits a month.

    Good luck!
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    Princ. of Supervision 69, Statistics 63, MIS 65, Intro to Computers 64, Criminal Justice 57, Law Enforcement 66, Ethics 72, Princ. of Financial Accounting 67, Money and Banking 59, Environment 69, Lifespan & Dev 53, Fund. Counseling 61, Astronomy 63, Finance 63, Business Math 80, Technical Writing 61, Intro Business 65, Business law II 57.
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    Quote:
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    I need as many Study Guides as possible to suit this problem. Please help.



    Depending on the exam(s) you will be taking there are a plethora of books, guides, tapes, not to forget about the IC flashcards, etc. listed below.

    When you settle on an exam let us know and we can all guide you to whatever you may need.
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    Old 06-04-2008, 10:07 AM
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    I already have 21 credits through college courses.

    PSYCH 101
    SOCL 101
    ENGL 101
    WESTERN HIST I
    MUSIC APP
    HEALTH AND NUTRITION
    BIOL 101

    I'm currently taking
    INTRO TO COMPUTERS 101
    ENGL 102
    SPEECH 101
    BIOL 102
    AMERICAN GOV 101

    Any suggestions on other tests I could take to help.
    Obviously the easier the better. LOL....

    Thanks for all the help guys.
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    Old 06-04-2008, 10:31 AM
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    Quote:
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    I already have 21 credits through college courses.

    PSYCH 101
    SOCL 101
    ENGL 101
    WESTERN HIST I
    MUSIC APP
    HEALTH AND NUTRITION
    BIOL 101

    I'm currently taking
    INTRO TO COMPUTERS 101
    ENGL 102
    SPEECH 101
    BIOL 102
    AMERICAN GOV 101

    Any suggestions on other tests I could take to help.
    Obviously the easier the better. LOL....

    Thanks for all the help guys.


    Welcome to the boards! Of course you can get 40 credits by years end. To answer your other question, you CAN NOT duplicate credit.
    According to your list, I would have suggested totally different classes if you had came here first- because all of your classes you are taking have tests! In other words, it is more efficient to take classes that you can't test- while taking tests for the remaining. No matter- let's move forward, and the up side is that this will be a benefit to you because you won't have to study as much! Here are the tests that you won't be able to take for sure:

    CLEP English Comp
    CLEP Freshman Comp
    CLEP Intro Psych
    CLEP Sociology
    CLEP Biology
    CLEP Government.
    CLEP Intro Computer

    Since you have already taken so many foundation courses, I think you are an excellent candidate to take the following exams within the next month with a short bit of time on IC:

    CLEP Analyzing and Interpreting Literature (6 credits)
    CLEP Educational Psychology (3 credits)
    CLEP Social Science and History (6 credits)
    CLEP Natural Sciences (6 credits)

    That will put you at 57 credits at the end of summer session. After that, you won't need much help getting the rest of your credits completed because you'll be an expert
    Don't ignore FEMA, those credits are 100% free through independent study. You can get those THIS WEEK to add in another 27 bringing your total up to 84 by the end of July.

    If your feeling motivated, don't enroll for fall at your community college. Sign up at TESC and test out of your last 36 credits in August and September. You can sign up for your training with a Bachelor's Degree. How's that sound?
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    I agree with Jennifer. You could rock out a BA before Dec if you worked hard at it.

    I also had a random thought. If you decide to go the FEMA route, don't stop at 27 credits. I did every course TESC would accept for credit and was awarded 30. Now you can only use up to 27 towards a degree, BUT... the military doesn't care if you can use them for a degree or not. They only care that you have them. So with a little extra work, you can get 3 more credits and get you that much closer towards your goal.
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    Quote:
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    I agree with Jennifer. You could rock out a BA before Dec if you worked hard at it.

    I also had a random thought. If you decide to go the FEMA route, don't stop at 27 credits. I did every course TESC would accept for credit and was awarded 30. Now you can only use up to 27 towards a degree, BUT... the military doesn't care if you can use them for a degree or not. They only care that you have them. So with a little extra work, you can get 3 more credits and get you that much closer towards your goal.
    >>

    HawkGuy,
    EXCELLENT suggestion. Sometimes it's easy to focus only on what "counts for the degree" and miss some great opportunities. (I might go back and add a few FEMA credits just for fun this week)
    ***WARNING****
    something happens to a person here, something changes you.....yes, adding credits is my idea of a good time
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