Lie or Mistake?

[bluebooger]

According to this site, they do all of those things.
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That being said, a county school board would be involved with most of the issues you mentioned, including budgets.  They would be responsible for oversight of the county school system, and in the case of Montgomery county, 20 different elementary, middle and high schools (if Wikipedia is correct).

strange 
I'm going to have to research my childhood county 

I know we had 3 incorporated towns and at least 3 non-incorporated "towns" 
our "big 3" each had their own police and fire department and each had its own elementary, middle and high school 

we didn't have a county tax, just a town sales tax  
I have no idea if the other towns had a sales tax or not 

I just can't see it making sense that a county school board would set budgets for towns of 5k people when the towns are miles apart from each other 
and the only thing the towns remotely have in common is the football schedule LOL

 

[sanantone]

According to this site, they do all of those things.
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..
That being said, a county school board would be involved with most of the issues you mentioned, including budgets.  They would be responsible for oversight of the county school system, and in the case of Montgomery county, 20 different elementary, middle and high schools (if Wikipedia is correct).

strange 
I'm going to have to research my childhood county 

I know we had 3 incorporated towns and at least 3 non-incorporated "towns" 
our "big 3" each had their own police and fire department and each had its own elementary, middle and high school 

we didn't have a county tax, just a town sales tax  
I have no idea if the other towns had a sales tax or not 

I just can't see it making sense that a county school board would set budgets for towns of 5k people when the towns are miles apart from each other 
and the only thing the towns remotely have in common is the football schedule LOL

 

In Texas, school boards represent school districts. Some cities have many school districts. Some cities have a consolidated school district. Some counties have a consolidated school district. Hays County has a school district, but it only covers the areas not covered by the San Marcos Independent School District. San Marcos is the biggest city in Hays County.

[Thorne]

Classic political backpedaling. She committed to a stupid lie, then got caught, then lied to get out of the lie, and will probably not be vindicated by any amount of work she does from this point forward.

This is why I don't lie as a general rule -- too risky.

[dfrecore]

According to this site, they do all of those things.
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..
That being said, a county school board would be involved with most of the issues you mentioned, including budgets.  They would be responsible for oversight of the county school system, and in the case of Montgomery county, 20 different elementary, middle and high schools (if Wikipedia is correct).

strange 
I'm going to have to research my childhood county 

I know we had 3 incorporated towns and at least 3 non-incorporated "towns" 
our "big 3" each had their own police and fire department and each had its own elementary, middle and high school 

we didn't have a county tax, just a town sales tax  
I have no idea if the other towns had a sales tax or not 

I just can't see it making sense that a county school board would set budgets for towns of 5k people when the towns are miles apart from each other 
and the only thing the towns remotely have in common is the football schedule LOL

 

In Texas, school boards represent school districts. Some cities have many school districts. Some cities have a consolidated school district. Some counties have a consolidated school district. Hays County has a school district, but it only covers the areas not covered by the San Marcos Independent School District. San Marcos is the biggest city in Hays County.

Here in CA, school boards also represent school districts, similar to Texas from what it sounds.  School costs are paid for here by property taxes, not sales taxes.  That is why crappy areas have crappy schools, and nice areas have nice schools.  Completely unfair, and I have advocated a better system for years.  Why should you get to go to a nicer school entirely based on how much money your parents make?

[sanantone]

According to this site, they do all of those things.
...

..
That being said, a county school board would be involved with most of the issues you mentioned, including budgets.  They would be responsible for oversight of the county school system, and in the case of Montgomery county, 20 different elementary, middle and high schools (if Wikipedia is correct).

strange 
I'm going to have to research my childhood county 

I know we had 3 incorporated towns and at least 3 non-incorporated "towns" 
our "big 3" each had their own police and fire department and each had its own elementary, middle and high school 

we didn't have a county tax, just a town sales tax  
I have no idea if the other towns had a sales tax or not 

I just can't see it making sense that a county school board would set budgets for towns of 5k people when the towns are miles apart from each other 
and the only thing the towns remotely have in common is the football schedule LOL

 

In Texas, school boards represent school districts. Some cities have many school districts. Some cities have a consolidated school district. Some counties have a consolidated school district. Hays County has a school district, but it only covers the areas not covered by the San Marcos Independent School District. San Marcos is the biggest city in Hays County.

Here in CA, school boards also represent school districts, similar to Texas from what it sounds.  School costs are paid for here by property taxes, not sales taxes.  That is why crappy areas have crappy schools, and nice areas have nice schools.  Completely unfair, and I have advocated a better system for years.  Why should you get to go to a nicer school entirely based on how much money your parents make?

Our schools are also paid for by property taxes. To try to make up for the disparity in home values and to respond to the school finance system being ruled unconstitutional, our state created the Robin Hood plan. The state takes money from the wealthier districts and distributes it to poorer districts. This hasn't worked out well either because this is also unconstitutional. The Texas constitution doesn't allow for a state property tax; property taxes are to only be collected locally. However, the Texas Supreme Court said that the current school finance system is constitutional, albeit, awful. It places a heavy burden on local governments because there is a limit to how much they can tax properties, and high property taxes are a pain for property owners.

[cookderosa]

While it is plausible that changing from quarter to semester hour would have screwed over her/a lot of students, graduation is a clear process that results in an actual degree. Leaving college with credit (in any amount) doesn't make you a graduate.

An associate degree is 90 quarter credits (60 semester hours) so if it is roughly the same set up as a 20-class associate, she would have earned 4.5 credits per course and it would have been a seamless transition. Every 4.5 would have = 3.0 and she'd be fine. (plus, it would be reasonable that the college wouldn't have required anyone to meet any requirements that weren't already part of their catalog)
If her college used 3.0 quarter credits, each would only come in as 2.68, which can be a problem (we've seen that often at TESU and how they handle it)

BUT- this is the smoking gun:

"Tammy Smith, coordinator of Admissions and Records at NRCC, wrote in an email on Monday the school does have dates of attendance for Dana Partin (whose maiden name is Altizer) during the fall of 1987 through spring 1996 with some enrollment breaks during that time."

She wasn't a full time enrolled student that was wronged, she was an on-again-off-again student who wasn't locked into a catalog or working with a permanent advisor. When the college changed systems, her credit calculation showed she needed extra courses - maybe even electives- and she opted not to do it. She presents a picture of a student who went to high school and then college (traditionally) but the truth (which is much more common) is that she spent 9 years working on this degree- which she never did finish.

She doesn't get my vote (as if anyone is asking lol) because she lied about her education for an education position. I don't think anyone would have cared otherwise, but it shows disrespect for the nuances of the education system - so for that reason, I'm out.

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This isn't really the same, but reminded me of a situation about 7 years ago. There were a bunch of chefs assembling to form a committee, and you had to have a bachelor's degree. I posted this on my personal FB page, and a former student of mine stepped forward. (my student's earned associate degrees). He told me he'd love to be onboard and his bachelor's was from UNLV. So, we all went forward. My task was to collect documents, so when I messaged him to send me a diploma, he back peddled and told me he didn't have one, but was only "1 class short" of graduating and should still be on the committee. I asked him why he didn't just go back and do that last class, he said it was so long ago now and he was so busy that he just didn't have time and wasn't going to bother. He didn't get on the committee, however, in his chef biography, he absolutely has his UNLV "degree" listed!

[dfrecore]

While it is plausible that changing from quarter to semester hour would have screwed over her/a lot of students, graduation is a clear process that results in an actual degree.  Leaving college with credit (in any amount) doesn't make you a graduate.

An associate degree is 90 quarter credits (60 semester hours) so if it is roughly the same set up as a 20-class associate, she would have earned 4.5 credits per course and it would have been a seamless transition.  Every 4.5 would have = 3.0 and she'd be fine.  (plus, it would be reasonable that the college wouldn't have required anyone to meet any requirements that weren't already part of their catalog)
If her college used 3.0 quarter credits, each would only come in as 2.68, which can be a problem (we've seen that often at TESU and how they handle it)

BUT- this is the smoking gun:

"Tammy Smith, coordinator of Admissions and Records at NRCC, wrote in an email on Monday the school does have dates of attendance for Dana Partin (whose maiden name is Altizer) during the fall of 1987 through spring 1996 with some enrollment breaks during that time."

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There are several CSU schools here in CA that have recently switched or are switching from the quarter system to the semester system.  They told students about it YEARS in advance, told what the date was going to be for each school, and tried to make it as seamless a transition as possible.  They spent $40M for 6 schools to make the switch.  They did not just say "we're switching tomorrow, I hope you have enough credits or you're screwed!"  This chick knew well in advance what was going on, and was most likely given a new eval showing what was going on and what she needed to do to graduate on time.  She just didn't do it.

[rlw74]

That is funny. Especially the dates of attendance (1987-1996). Seems that over the course of a decade you would have talked to at least one academic advisor. You would have had to apply for graduation and you would have gotten a diploma.

[alleycat]

I know of several people that do the exact same thing. Not being honest about their degrees. Amazing that people would date to do it with all the clearing houses out there now!

[jsd]

lol, of course she won her election