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2 COVID Vaccines Approved, End to Pandemic in Sight??
I just got the Moderna vaccine yesterday. Nothing, but a sore arm. I hear it's worse for people who had COVID-19 previously or more senior people.
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A big shout out to the states that are throwing away vaccines because they can't get them to the "right" people, and hospitals/clinics will be penalized by giving them to the "wrong" people. I'm looking at you California and New York! Yes, you heard correctly - once the vial is opened, you have 6 hours to give the vaccines out, and CA & NY insisted that if you can't give shots to the "correct" people who are prioritized (frontline healthcare workers and residents of nursing homes and other long-term facilities), then you could have your license taken away if you give the shots to anyone else. They would rather throw them away then give them to someone not on the list.

In the last few days, they've loosened up the restrictions, but they've known about this rollout for months now, and still can't find a way to get it out to everyone, nor done quickly.

This in spite of the fact that some states have been able to get a majority of their vaccines out (ND, SD, WV), but CA only has given out 25%. And THIS is the state that Biden wants the rest of the US to follow. Sigh...in spite of the record number of people fleeing the state...
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(01-18-2021, 01:51 PM)dfrecore Wrote: A big shout out to the states that are throwing away vaccines because they can't get them to the "right" people, and hospitals/clinics will be penalized by giving them to the "wrong" people.  I'm looking at you California and New York!  Yes, you heard correctly - once the vial is opened, you have 6 hours to give the vaccines out, and CA & NY insisted that if you can't give shots to the "correct" people who are prioritized (frontline healthcare workers and residents of nursing homes and other long-term facilities), then you could have your license taken away if you give the shots to anyone else.  They would rather throw them away then give them to someone not on the list.

In the last few days, they've loosened up the restrictions, but they've known about this rollout for months now, and still can't find a way to get it out to everyone, nor done quickly.

This in spite of the fact that some states have been able to get a majority of their vaccines out (ND, SD, WV), but CA only has given out 25%.  And THIS is the state that Biden wants the rest of the US to follow.  Sigh...in spite of the record number of people fleeing the state...

Wow that is very frustrating. I've been volunteering for vaccine distribution in my state and they've been making sure every needle finds an arm. Obviously we've been getting them primarily to the target demographics but by the end of the day, if we have extras that we can't get rid of, we take anyone in. We've been calling in family and such, just to make sure nothing is wasted.
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(01-18-2021, 02:39 PM)MNomadic Wrote:
(01-18-2021, 01:51 PM)dfrecore Wrote: A big shout out to the states that are throwing away vaccines because they can't get them to the "right" people, and hospitals/clinics will be penalized by giving them to the "wrong" people.  I'm looking at you California and New York!  Yes, you heard correctly - once the vial is opened, you have 6 hours to give the vaccines out, and CA & NY insisted that if you can't give shots to the "correct" people who are prioritized (frontline healthcare workers and residents of nursing homes and other long-term facilities), then you could have your license taken away if you give the shots to anyone else.  They would rather throw them away then give them to someone not on the list.

In the last few days, they've loosened up the restrictions, but they've known about this rollout for months now, and still can't find a way to get it out to everyone, nor done quickly.

This in spite of the fact that some states have been able to get a majority of their vaccines out (ND, SD, WV), but CA only has given out 25%.  And THIS is the state that Biden wants the rest of the US to follow.  Sigh...in spite of the record number of people fleeing the state...

Wow that is very frustrating. I've been volunteering for vaccine distribution in my state and they've been making sure every needle finds an arm. Obviously we've been getting them primarily to the target demographics but by the end of the day, if we have extras that we can't get rid of, we take anyone in. We've been calling in family and such, just to make sure nothing is wasted.

Yes, you would think that giving the vaccine to ANYONE who wants it would be better than throwing them away!

Also, last week LA County, which is one of the worst spots on planet Earth for Covid, opened up Dodger Stadium to give out the vaccine.  And then closed today for MLK day.  Because apparently, Covid's not an emergency or anything...I mean, seriously, could the state be more inept?  I think not.

And then people wonder why people aren't lining up to take the vaccines, or following the guidelines.  The people at the top don't follow the guidelines themselves (look at a BUNCH of governors whose states are locked down) and LA county says a day off is more important than giving out vaccines.  If people at the top don't think it's a priority, why would the rest of us feel like it is?
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(01-18-2021, 09:33 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Yes, you would think that giving the vaccine to ANYONE who wants it would be better than throwing them away!

Also, last week LA County, which is one of the worst spots on planet Earth for Covid, opened up Dodger Stadium to give out the vaccine.  And then closed today for MLK day.  Because apparently, Covid's not an emergency or anything...I mean, seriously, could the state be more inept?  I think not.

And then people wonder why people aren't lining up to take the vaccines, or following the guidelines.  The people at the top don't follow the guidelines themselves (look at a BUNCH of governors whose states are locked down) and LA county says a day off is more important than giving out vaccines.  If people at the top don't think it's a priority, why would the rest of us feel like it is?

If we do the 1 million vaccine shots per day, that is still 400 days just to get 200 million vaccinated.

The biggest problem we have is the lack of vaccine manufacturing capacity and both our political parties don't seem to be worried about it. If this virus mutates to the point where the current vaccine doesn't work, then we're going to be sitting here again for another 1 to 2 years waiting for things to be built that should have been done by now.

The UK govt. is building a new vaccine plant that can make 70m doses in 5 months for $150m:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ctory.html

Seeing lowest reproduction numbers since the lockdowns:
https://rt.live/

Huge drop in hospitalizations:
https://covidtracking.com/data/national/

23 million+ vaccines given in the USA so far:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid...tr_story_2

Cases Around the world:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Israel Data coming out slowly should know more in a couple of weeks:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-see...ccination/
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