BA in English – Professional Communication & Journalism Concentration

[rachel83az]

Bear in mind that ONU may or may not accept international students and that's the cheapest way to meet the UL English requirements. Otherwise, that's another thousand or so for BYU UL English credits. Once you count the full cost of everything, even 6 terms at UMPI is still going to be cheaper than an English degree from TESU.

You have to complete the majority of your UL's at UMPI. It's actually on your degree program form how many must be completed at UMPI. There's not a ton of UL English courses required so I would be careful taking UL's elsewhere. 

BYU courses are not cheap so I'm always hesitant to say to take them.For the price of UMPI tuition, I wouldn't take BYU courses. I looked on StraighterLine and Study and don't see courses that would transfer in for the English courses. The course descriptions are pretty specific. A lot of community colleges offer American Lit and British Lit. Oddly, neither one of them is a requirement in this degree. It is an interesting mix of communications and English courses. It's kind of funky - not in a bad way. It definitely seems like a unique program.

Right, I'm agreeing. With TESU, you have to take 1 or 2 BYU courses to get an English degree (depends on ONU). With UMPI, you can take everything with them. Much cheaper and easier.

[SweetsugarNL]

Tesu is not a target for me at the moment. Normally it was COSC.

[rachel83az]

Which COSC degree? Just general studies or something else?

[SweetsugarNL]

General, because of the easiest way...

[ss20ts]

Right, I'm agreeing. With TESU, you have to take 1 or 2 BYU courses to get an English degree (depends on ONU). With UMPI, you can take everything with them. Much cheaper and easier.

Oh wow you HAVE to take a BYU course to complete the TESU degree? Ouch! That's rough! Back in the day their independent study course were much cheaper. LSU used to have independent study courses as well. I haven't seen them in ages though.

I thought another thread said ONU wasn't open to international students? That RA credit at TESU and COSC is brutal. They really are pushing to take their courses which is too bad. 

[dfrecore]

I'm looking at COSC as well. I'm a writer in my country and I have a lot of communication credits. I hope when I'm evaluating this it's around 30 but that's not sure of course. So for me, it is a choice between "cheap" (COSC bals) or more my interest. But since English is my second language I'm not sure if a English degree is the right fit.

If you're just looking for "A" degree, I would stick with COSC.  I wouldn't do all of the work to get an English degree when you don't even live in an English-speaking country.

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That RA credit at TESU and COSC is brutal. They really are pushing to take their courses which is too bad. 

I agree that it sucks, but I don't agree that they're pushing to take their courses.  If that was the case, then they would make you take 30cr of residency there or something like that.

The English degree is one that is just hard to find inexpensive UL English credits, but it's not impossible.  Coopersmith has a course too.

[rachel83az]

Right, I'm agreeing. With TESU, you have to take 1 or 2 BYU courses to get an English degree (depends on ONU). With UMPI, you can take everything with them. Much cheaper and easier.

Oh wow you HAVE to take a BYU course to complete the TESU degree? Ouch! That's rough! Back in the day their independent study course were much cheaper. LSU used to have independent study courses as well. I haven't seen them in ages though.

I thought another thread said ONU wasn't open to international students? That RA credit at TESU and COSC is brutal. They really are pushing to take their courses which is too bad. 

For the English degree, you need 15 UL English credits + capstone (18 total). SDC has two UL classes. Coopersmith has one UL class. That's 9 UL credits. You need 2 more UL classes from ONU, BYU, or some other 4-year institution. 

Thankfully, it's been confirmed that international students who neither have nor want an F1 student visa ARE allowed to take ONU classes with no restrictions.

[SweetsugarNL]

Do that ul classes also make sense for UMPI? And Onu is great news!

[rachel83az]

Do that ul classes also make sense for UMPI? And Onu is great news!

With UMPI, the best route (per ss20ts) is to complete everything at Sophia with the exception of the English Comp classes and then finish at UMPI. This should leave you with roughly 30 credits to complete there. Because you have some ASU courses, you might be able to skip some more of the Sophia offerings. COSC might be marginally cheaper, depending on degrees, but UMPI is certainly easier to deal with!

[SweetsugarNL]

I think I need a minimum of 17 courses unless I can take some alternative English ul classes.