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BALS COSC vs TESU
#1
Okay, so I know things have been changing but can anyone summarize the advantages / disadvantages of a BALS at these two schools?  I know the Shmoop v TESU changes may have impacted things as well, but is it enough to favor Charter Oaks?

Thanks for the help (and any sheets for a plan out there?)
Former University of Pennsylvania Economics Major Trying to Restart
Currently working on Study.com Guardian Scholarship: Personal Finance, American Government, Environmental Science, Intro to Management, Hist Vietnam War - 15cr
ALEKs: Beginning/Intermediate/College Algebra - 9cr
The Institutes: Professional Ethics - 2cr
TEEX: All 3 Cyber Security - 6cr
CLEP:A&I Lit - 6cr
Sophia: Building Teams - 1cr
Kaplan: PLA - 3cr
Saylor: Env Ethics - 3cr
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#2
Do you have any existing Shmoop credits?
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Thomas Edison State University (TESU)
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#3
Have you taken more courses such as Shmoop or from other providers since you updated your signature? Basically get all the ACE/NCCRS credits you can cheap/easy/fast - I would recommend going for CLEP/MS, OnlineDegree.com/Saylor.org for your general education, electives, and AOS lower level requirements. Finish the degree with the Study.com UL AOS courses.

Former University of Pennsylvania Economics Major Trying to Restart
Currently working on Study.com Guardian Scholarship: Personal Finance, American Government, Environmental Science, Intro to Management, Hist Vietnam War - 15cr
ALEKs: Beginning/Intermediate/College Algebra - 9cr
The Institutes: Professional Ethics - 2cr
TEEX: All 3 Cyber Security - 6cr
CLEP:A&I Lit - 6cr
Sophia: Building Teams - 1cr
Kaplan: PLA - 3cr
Saylor: Env Ethics - 3cr
45cr down
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#4
No I have not updated my signature in a bit, a handful of additional credits. I am not sure how that would apply to the differences between the two programs unless I am missing something?

(09-22-2018, 03:50 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Have you taken more courses such as Shmoop or from other providers since you updated your signature?  Basically get all the ACE/NCCRS credits you can cheap/easy/fast - I would recommend going for CLEP/MS, OnlineDegree.com/Saylor.org for your general education, electives, and AOS lower level requirements.  Finish the degree with the Study.com UL AOS courses.

Former University of Pennsylvania Economics Major Trying to Restart
Currently working on Study.com Guardian Scholarship: Personal Finance, American Government, Environmental Science, Intro to Management, Hist Vietnam War - 15cr
ALEKs: Beginning/Intermediate/College Algebra - 9cr
The Institutes: Professional Ethics - 2cr
TEEX: All 3 Cyber Security - 6cr
CLEP:A&I Lit - 6cr
Sophia: Building Teams - 1cr
Kaplan: PLA - 3cr
Saylor: Env Ethics - 3cr
45cr down

I don't know anything about OnlineDegree.com (new?) but dang if those Saylor courses a disorganized pain.  Wish they just had a single book/ebook to study; going all over (if all links work) is so very very time consuming
Former University of Pennsylvania Economics Major Trying to Restart
Currently working on Study.com Guardian Scholarship: Personal Finance, American Government, Environmental Science, Intro to Management, Hist Vietnam War - 15cr
ALEKs: Beginning/Intermediate/College Algebra - 9cr
The Institutes: Professional Ethics - 2cr
TEEX: All 3 Cyber Security - 6cr
CLEP:A&I Lit - 6cr
Sophia: Building Teams - 1cr
Kaplan: PLA - 3cr
Saylor: Env Ethics - 3cr
45cr down
#5
Depends on which credits you have and from where to see which program they would fit better into. For instance, if you had a bunch of Shmoop credits already or wanted to do a bunch more, you couldn't apply them to tesu. Both programs are close in overall cost. What I like about tesu, is it's very possible to add on an associates (or 2), a second bachelor's or even some undergrad certificates for minimal extra money.

Yes OD is very new and a great option if there are courses that can fit into your degree. They only have 15 right now. The good news is they are talks with setting up direct transfer agreements with both TESU and COSC.
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The Institutes, TEEX, NFA(9cr): Ethics, Cyber 101/201/301, Safety
Sophia(?cr): Most of them
Study.com(31cr): Eng 105, Fin 102, His 108, Lib Sci 101, Math 104, Stat 101, CS107, CS 303, BUS 107
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OD(6cr): Robotics, Cyber
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#6
(09-22-2018, 04:38 PM)MNomadic Wrote: Depends on which credits you have and from where to see which program they would fit better into. For instance, if you had a bunch of Shmoop credits already or wanted to do a bunch more, you couldn't apply them to tesu. Both programs are close in overall cost. What I like about tesu, is it's very possible to add on an associates (or 2), a second bachelor's or even some undergrad certificates for minimal extra money.

Yes OD is very new and a great option if there are courses that can fit into your degree. They only have 15 right now. The good news is they are talks with setting up direct transfer agreements with both TESU and COSC.

I am interested in adding some additional history credits from Shmoop if possible; not a lot of inexpensive history credits out there and none that I know of as low per as Shmoop.  But regardless of that I am still curious what/why TESU v Charter
Former University of Pennsylvania Economics Major Trying to Restart
Currently working on Study.com Guardian Scholarship: Personal Finance, American Government, Environmental Science, Intro to Management, Hist Vietnam War - 15cr
ALEKs: Beginning/Intermediate/College Algebra - 9cr
The Institutes: Professional Ethics - 2cr
TEEX: All 3 Cyber Security - 6cr
CLEP:A&I Lit - 6cr
Sophia: Building Teams - 1cr
Kaplan: PLA - 3cr
Saylor: Env Ethics - 3cr
45cr down
#7
(09-22-2018, 05:37 PM)AJ_Atlanta Wrote:
(09-22-2018, 04:38 PM)MNomadic Wrote: Depends on which credits you have and from where to see which program they would fit better into. For instance, if you had a bunch of Shmoop credits already or wanted to do a bunch more, you couldn't apply them to tesu. Both programs are close in overall cost. What I like about tesu, is it's very possible to add on an associates (or 2), a second bachelor's or even some undergrad certificates for minimal extra money.

Yes OD is very new and a great option if there are courses that can fit into your degree. They only have 15 right now. The good news is they are talks with setting up direct transfer agreements with both TESU and COSC.

I am interested in adding some additional history credits from Shmoop if possible; not a lot of inexpensive history credits out there and none that I know of as low per as Shmoop.  But regardless of that I am still curious what/why TESU v Charter

Have you looked into going back to University of Pennsylvania? They just started offering an online BAAS program.
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Masters and Graduate Certificate
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
#8
TESU doesn't require a lab science, while COSC does, so if that's a deal-breaker for you, then you have to go with TESU. And, I think that COSC requires College Algebra or higher, while TESU only requires college-level math (so Applied Liberal Arts Math or College Math will work). Again, for some people, this may be a deal-breaker.

TESU also requires fewer UL courses, so if you're coming in with a bunch of LL courses that fit into a TESU plan, it may be an overall better plan for you to do TESU.

COSC has a BS as well as a BA, so you have more opportunities to apply some courses that might not work as Liberal Studies at TESU. I think my daughter, who is planning a specific AAS degree at her CC after HS graduation, will have a much better shot at turning that into a degree at COSC than TESU.

BUT, starting from scratch, and with no real barriers, COSC is now cheaper than TESU. And with the ability to use Shmoop and FEMA, it's definitely the cheapest degree available.
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