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CLEA Masstercursos master course
(11-04-2025, 01:03 AM)anceewing Wrote:
(11-03-2025, 07:33 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: It is co issued with CLEA. The thing is CLEA is a founding partner of DQ, so it is kind of redundant.

https://certificadouniversitariointernac...#iLightbox[9a001d21e485ae53bc6]/0

https://certificadouniversitariointernacional.com/#

The new certificate doesn't even have CLEA's logo, and THE KEY POINT it mentions "las agencia uni.. D.. Q.." Certifies."  intead of CLEA Certifies.
While I have my own concerns about these courses, the image you link to does not match the ones on the masstercursos site, e.g.: https://masstercursos.teachable.com/p/un...ortamiento (scroll down). 

What led you to conclude that the certificates wouldn't look like the ones on the site, but rather the ones on https://certificadouniversitariointernacional.com? Is this from communication with Masstercursos?
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Thank you for your concern. However, I am not interested in this certificate. For anyone who is interested in the course, please contact the organizer directly, as I am not the appropriate point of contact.
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(11-05-2025, 01:13 AM)anceewing Wrote: Thank you for your concern. However, I am not interested in this certificate. For anyone who is interested in the course, please contact the organizer directly, as I am not the appropriate point of contact.

I was just using that course as an example, I am wondering where you got the information about this different certificate, as the link you give is not on the Masstercursos website and I haven't seen that image there either. That's why I'm asking you where you read/were told that the certificate is this one shows on a different site. Could you let us know so others are aware?
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MBA—UMass Global; University of the People—B.S. Health Science
TESU—BA Biology & Psychology, AS Mathematics

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BA in Linguistics, traditional route

Online traditional credits (undergrad & U.S. unless otherwise stated)
Eastern Gateway Community College (28); ASU (10);  New Mexico Junior College (8); Strayer (3); Purdue University Global (3); TESU (6); XAMK Finland (57 ECTS + 10 grad ECTS), University of the People (3 grad)

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Sophia (81), Study.com (27), Saylor (6 credits), Onlinedegree.com (12), CLEP (6)

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I'm not sure why they removed CLEA's logo from their certifications. This makes the new certificates practically worthless when you consider CLEA is the only fully recognized institution with governmental control status equivalent to a US regionally accredited institution in the partnership. The rest are private or non-accredited institutions with questionable recognition so if CLEA is not included, any programs that are certified would be graduate-level professional development (unaccredited certificate) but no transferrable graduate credits.
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(11-14-2025, 04:50 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: I'm not sure why they removed CLEA's logo from their certifications.  This makes the new certificates practically worthless when you consider CLEA is the only fully recognized institution with governmental control status equivalent to a US regionally accredited institution in the partnership.   The rest are private or non-accredited institutions with questionable recognition so if CLEA is not included, any programs that are certified would be graduate-level professional development (unaccredited certificate) but no transferrable graduate credits.

I feel like I am taking crazy pills. Where are people getting the information that Masstercursos certificates/diplomas will not have CLEA listed on them? The picture the certificates/ diplomas provided by anceewing are not from the Masstercursos site, but somewhere else. All that poster told us was that certificates without Clea's name exist. What am I supposed to do with that?

(This is just me trying to understand whether there is evidence behind these claims or if people just jumped to conclusions. For my own purposes, it doesn't matter to me whether they say CLEA on them or not because I would never present them as equivalent to a master's degree to anybody; the curricula as  presented on the Masstercursos  website clearly are not equivalent.)
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Alternative credits
Sophia (81), Study.com (27), Saylor (6 credits), Onlinedegree.com (12), CLEP (6)

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(11-14-2025, 06:22 PM)wow Wrote: I feel like I am taking crazy pills. Where are people getting the information that Masstercursos certificates/diplomas will not have CLEA listed on them? The picture the certificates/ diplomas provided by anceewing are not from the Masstercursos site, but somewhere else. All that poster told us was that certificates without Clea's name exist. What am I supposed to do with that?

(This is just me trying to understand whether there is evidence behind these claims or if people just jumped to conclusions. For my own purposes, it doesn't matter to me whether they say CLEA on them or not because I would never present them as equivalent to a master's degree to anybody; the curricula as  presented on the Masstercursos  website clearly are not equivalent.)

It looks like the one without the CLEA may be an undercover way for them to validate continuing education units from external programs that are not their partners.  It may be similar to Azteca validation where one could present coursework or a program they don't recognize in order to get this international certificate after they have evaluated the content the applicant presents.

The one from Mastercursor may very well still have the CLEA logo on it as seen on their website from the first link.  I was looking at other certificates from graduates where some had different listings in many variations.   CLEA probably still validates Mastercursor but other institutions and partners listed are probably based on other external programs or applicants may be offered different pricing for the certificates based on what institutions they want listed on them.
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Lol, this is so dumb. Nothing changed about the diploma. That person was wrong and doubled down.

I have my own concerns about this school, but the diplomas say CLEA on them right on the website in the photos and description.
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I got my last diploma in March 2025 from CLEA/Masstercursos.  The word "CLEA" is on it seven times, not counting the logo, which appears once on each of the two pages.
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Masstercursos removed the 1,600 hour courses. Is that just on my end or does anyone have information about this ?
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(11-24-2025, 11:48 AM)Konny08 Wrote: Masstercursos removed the 1,600 hour courses. Is that just on my end or does anyone have information about this ?

Which link are you using?
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BA in Linguistics, traditional route

Online traditional credits (undergrad & U.S. unless otherwise stated)
Eastern Gateway Community College (28); ASU (10);  New Mexico Junior College (8); Strayer (3); Purdue University Global (3); TESU (6); XAMK Finland (57 ECTS + 10 grad ECTS), University of the People (3 grad)

Alternative credits
Sophia (81), Study.com (27), Saylor (6 credits), Onlinedegree.com (12), CLEP (6)

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