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ENEB Credential Evaluation
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(10-17-2020, 07:37 PM)robottheman Wrote:
(10-17-2020, 12:10 PM)Cofffeee Wrote: Did anyone have luck evaluating it for Canadian equivalency?

I have read that it does not pass Canadian equivalency at all if you get it evaluated

By whom? There are five different recognized evaluators there and I haven't seen anything that suggests that all of them have been sent a report.
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I think ECE evaluated Universidad Isabel I Masters as a RA Bachelors degree not because of the entrance requirement being a 3 year Bachelors degree although they say that to justify their decision. It's because they probably know it is a proprio degree so they wanted to find a reason not to evaluate it at the Masters level.
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(Yesterday, 02:36 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: I think ECE evaluated Universidad Isabel I Masters as a RA Bachelors degree not because of the entrance requirement being a 3 year Bachelors degree although they say that to justify their decision.  It's because they probably know it is a proprio degree so they wanted to find a reason not to evaluate it at the Masters level.

This may be true. I'd be curious what a course evaluation would look like from ECE, whether it would say the credits are graduate level or upper division undergraduate.

IEE seems like a good bet though, based on stuff found on the other forum, because they might be willing to make it a PGCert or PGDip, at least in theory.
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(Yesterday, 02:36 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: I think ECE evaluated Universidad Isabel I Masters as a RA Bachelors degree not because of the entrance requirement being a 3 year Bachelors degree although they say that to justify their decision.  It's because they probably know it is a proprio degree so they wanted to find a reason not to evaluate it at the Masters level.

They definitely know it's a propio degree, and I'm starting to believe the highly questionable reason they used for their conclusion has a larger intent behind it, and it's most likely to help protect this insanely overpriced higher education system we have here in the United States. After all, they themselves don't want to lose business having schools turn against them and not recommend them or respect them when they find out they're evaluating these super inexpensive programs as 1:1 equivalent.
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Perhaps, although I'll wait until there's at least a scintilla of evidence before believing this.
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I am pretty sure that the initial evaluation we're talking about was done in the context of an employment validation of the degree, not as an academic credential. So we should keep that in mind. We need a few more evaluations, as an academic credential and as individual courses––and from more than one evaluator, before we can really say much about the value of the degree outside of a very narrow window of knowledge.
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(Yesterday, 10:49 PM)SteveFoerster Wrote: Perhaps, although I'll wait until there's at least a scintilla of evidence before believing this.

I can understand wanting more evidence, I would like more as well. But I think their reasoning is enough for this to be at least that scintilla. They've evaluated so many degrees over the past 40 years and would know how these systems work far more than well enough to know the fact that a school's admission policy has nothing at all to do with the level of work in a degree program. That decision calls into question what they actually evaluated: the degree program? Or the admission policy? And if this is their standard position, are they evaluating all Masters degrees from the UK as Bachelor's degrees since its common there for a Bachelors degree to be a 3-year degree? I highly doubt they are, and that brings things into question even more.

Using their logic, a precocious high schooler who was moved ahead and earned a Masters would have to have his/her Masters evaluated as a Bachelors because the University admitted him/her without a 4-year degree.

Sounds terribly fishy is all.

(Today, 02:11 AM)Merlin Wrote: I am pretty sure that the initial evaluation we're talking about was done in the context of an employment validation of the degree, not as an academic credential. So we should keep that in mind. We need a few more evaluations, as an academic credential and as individual courses––and from more than one evaluator, before we can really say much about the value of the degree outside of a very narrow window of knowledge.

Fair enough. At the same time, the concern is really centered on the reason for their conclusion which I think sits outside of the evaluation type. I can't see a reason why they would focus on the admission policy for one type of evaluation but not for another and, IIRC, ECE didn't explain it either in their long and drawn-out explanation. But assuming they do it this way as a routine practice, it begs the question of them: what would the admission policy have to do with the evaluation type?

I've just learned in life (as I think we all have) that when something doesn't make sense, and that thing that doesn't make sense is accompanied by a very long explanation that doesn't directly target the point of what's trying to be pushed across, it's usually BS.
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