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(05-27-2021, 02:23 PM)eLearner Wrote: (05-27-2021, 12:10 PM)rbat2021 Wrote: I remember seeing that someone posted Universidad Isabel 1 was in the WES database. I just checked now and it's not there anymore. Could this mean they've been blacklisted? Nebrija is still there and some Spain business schools are partnered with them.
Most of the Italian Universities I'm looking at are all there. Not being there doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing but it is quite strange to see Isabel come and go if that's the case.
It's still there. It's under Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla. ENEB is still there, too. However, if you're not logged into their site you can't see Isabel as WES limits how much data can be retrieved from the public search tool.
Nice! Thanks, I'll make an account to access the complete database.
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(05-27-2021, 01:17 PM)rbat2021 Wrote: At the moment, I'm considering quite a few. If I had to narrow down the choices, I'd say these are my top 10 candidates:
https://www.uniroma1.it/
https://www.unisr.it/
https://www.unimarconi.it/
https://web.unipv.it/
https://www.unipegaso.it/
https://www.unimercatorum.it/
https://www.unitelmasapienza.it/it
https://www.uniroma5.it/
https://www.unicusano.it/
https://web.uniroma2.it/
Of that list, I think that I would go with Unitelma Sapienza. L'Sapienza is apparently quite a famous/prestigious university in Italy and it looks like Unitelma Sapienza is their online "branch" of that. I don't know enough about the others to say if they're actually any better or worse, though.
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(05-27-2021, 02:44 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: Yeah it seems that the Spanish government is playing semantics although I get what they are doing in that the propio degrees by themselves allow universities to work with other companies with certification and without government oversight which makes their programs practically equivalent to a state-approved Masters degree here in the US although we are seeing accreditation based on transfer credit (ECTS) for less than a Masters due to university certification. I believe evaluators should start using the terms "state-approved" or "state-authorized" instead of "non-accredited". That will make these evaluations look much better to the employer since these Masters programs are not really meant for academic purposes.
Never thought of it that way. I can see the utility in that given the negative connotation the term "non-accredited" can carry with those not aware of how the system works.
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(05-27-2021, 03:40 PM)rachel83az Wrote: (05-27-2021, 01:17 PM)rbat2021 Wrote: At the moment, I'm considering quite a few. If I had to narrow down the choices, I'd say these are my top 10 candidates:
https://www.uniroma1.it/
https://www.unisr.it/
https://www.unimarconi.it/
https://web.unipv.it/
https://www.unipegaso.it/
https://www.unimercatorum.it/
https://www.unitelmasapienza.it/it
https://www.uniroma5.it/
https://www.unicusano.it/
https://web.uniroma2.it/
Of that list, I think that I would go with Unitelma Sapienza. L'Sapienza is apparently quite a famous/prestigious university in Italy and it looks like Unitelma Sapienza is their online "branch" of that. I don't know enough about the others to say if they're actually any better or worse, though.
Awesome, thanks for letting me know.
That's a huge plus.. They'll be the first one I call tomorrow. I've been learning some Italian today and it's been quite fun.
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(05-27-2021, 09:33 AM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: The Master Universitario I Livello is equivalent to the Spanish version of the Master Propio degree. A vast majority of propio degrees are not considered equivalent to a US regionally accredited Masters degree because they do not grant access to a doctorate degree and are not recognized by the Spanish government. Some US evaluators will not evaluate propio degrees at all while others only equate them to graduate credit only, a graduate certificate, an additional accredited Bachelors, or non-accredited Masters. However, this may be different in Italy as the government themselves may recognize it there which may lead an evaluator to recognize it as an accredited Masters.
We're do you get that info from?
They are level 7 of Europe which automatically should imply they are normal degree as far as know.
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(05-30-2021, 04:44 AM)Kab Wrote: (05-27-2021, 09:33 AM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: The Master Universitario I Livello is equivalent to the Spanish version of the Master Propio degree. A vast majority of propio degrees are not considered equivalent to a US regionally accredited Masters degree because they do not grant access to a doctorate degree and are not recognized by the Spanish government. Some US evaluators will not evaluate propio degrees at all while others only equate them to graduate credit only, a graduate certificate, an additional accredited Bachelors, or non-accredited Masters. However, this may be different in Italy as the government themselves may recognize it there which may lead an evaluator to recognize it as an accredited Masters.
We're do you get that info from?
They are level 7 of Europe which automatically should imply they are normal degree as far as know.
https://www.uni-italia.net/the-university-system
Master Universitario di I Livello - First level Specializing Master
This kind of course is available in some universities and it offers a specialization course aimed at increasing student`s professional education. The qualification awarded does not give access to Ph.D. This qualification is not part of the European university system as defined in Bologna in 1999
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Thanks!
I was confused with this one.
The link was great.
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(05-27-2021, 03:56 PM)raycathode Wrote:
Is there such a thing as a guaranteed Master's Degree though? I mean, it's a Master's degree but I don't think it's "guaranteed" to be evaluated as such... there may be a few NACES evaluators that may do so though, good luck for those taking these programs and let us know how the evaluation goes!
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