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Help - son wants degree change
#1
Hoping someone can help to guide us. My son was going for computer science at TESU now he wants to go for computer engineering or robotics engineering. Does anyone know the low budget way to make this change?

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#2
Does TESU have a Computer Engineering degree?
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Can you link to the actual tesu degree page?


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#4
No they don’t have computer engineering
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#5
The problem is going to be finding a program that will accept the credits he has. If you'll post the credits he has, we can advise you better. My initial reaction is that he might be better off finishing the Computer Science degree and adding on a Nanodegree or such in robotics.
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That can definitely be tricky. What courses towards computer science has he already completed?
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#7
There are other schools that offer an online bachelor's in computer engineering. Ironically, I heard an economist on NPR talk about the sunk cost fallacy today. It's usually better to cut and run than to worry about how much you've already invested in something. The longer you stay with something you don't want, isn't working, don't like, etc., the more you lose.
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(01-25-2019, 06:03 PM)sanantone Wrote: Ironically, I heard an economist on NPR talk about the sunk cost fallacy today. It's usually better to cut and run than to worry about how much you've already invested in something. The longer you stay with something you don't want, isn't working, don't like, etc., the more you lose.

I am not sure that I agree with that in terms of a college degree.  College is so very expensive and I have read the statistic that 85% of all people with a college degree do not work in the field of the degree.  So many jobs simply require a degree, not a specific one.  My oldest son is working at a bank with a BA in Communications Studies and a BA in Philosophy.  

You did not say how many credits your son has, but if he is 60% finished or more, I would probably advise him to finish the degree in Computer Science and then seek further training in the specialization he is interested in.  That is just my opinion.  There are a lot of unknown factors, such as how far he is along, how old he is, and if that specialization is offered totally online or in your area.
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(01-30-2019, 09:39 AM)hsfamfun Wrote:
(01-25-2019, 06:03 PM)sanantone Wrote: Ironically, I heard an economist on NPR talk about the sunk cost fallacy today. It's usually better to cut and run than to worry about how much you've already invested in something. The longer you stay with something you don't want, isn't working, don't like, etc., the more you lose.

I am not sure that I agree with that in terms of a college degree.  College is so very expensive and I have read the statistic that 85% of all people with a college degree do not work in the field of the degree.  So many jobs simply require a degree, not a specific one.  My oldest son is working at a bank with a BA in Communications Studies and a BA in Philosophy.  

You did not say how many credits your son has, but if he is 60% finished or more, I would probably advise him to finish the degree in Computer Science and then seek further training in the specialization he is interested in.  That is just my opinion.  There are a lot of unknown factors, such as how far he is along, how old he is, and if that specialization is offered totally online or in your area.

It all depends on one's goals. For example, I've seen several online graduate programs in engineering that said that a bachelor's degree in physical science would be acceptable, but you have to take several basic engineering courses before being fully admitted. Sometimes, shortcuts can be more costly. 

There are people taking the shortcut of earning an online, ABET-accredited degree in engineering technology. In my state, and probably many other states, it takes people with engineering technology degrees twice as long to become professional engineers. People with ABET-accredited engineering degrees need four years of experience, and people with ABET-accredited engineering technology or non-engineering degrees need eight years of experience.

What if you want to commission in USPHS? They don't accept engineering technology degrees; the degree has to be in engineering. 

Before taking a shortcut, know what your limitations will be and make sure you'll be able to live with them.
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#10
That is very sound advice.  That is where the question of how old the student is comes into place and if he has solid goals.

My two sons, ages 19 and 22, are both changing their minds so fast about career and education decisions that my head is spinning.  My advice is very tainted by my own experience.
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