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#51
I think that Stoic is right. The opportunity cost is the big deal here. I am also curious about what the transcript looks like. Does Universidad Isabel include all of the courses from the program on the transcript. In that case, the graduate accounting and trade classes individually are a good deal? Or do they just list the degree? That is more problematic. Do you have to finish all of the modules? Or can you just finish the master's degree and get that degree? Lots of questions. It could be a great deal or it might not be great at all.

Of course, no one is forced to list a degree on a resume and I think that most people are throwing a long pass down field on this one. It is good to invest broadly, but buying a lottery ticket every once in a while is also okay.
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#52
I'd be more concerned about ENEB losing its partnership. The program might be $250, but that's time you could have spent earning a degree from an accredited school. Imagine spending 6 to 18 months on an unaccredited degree you can't use.
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#53
Ok, well I've got a couple of further details about the program that makes it far more iffy.
1) The quizzes are not part of your grade and not even required. They exist purely for self evaluation. The program is entirely graded on the essay's/projects/assignments you complete for each module. MBA = 13 projects/assignments
2) Not once have I seen the word "degree" being used in any of the literature or online. In fact all the documentations specifically avoid the word. I strongly suspect ( but can't yet actually prove) that these programs aren't degrees, but are in fact college training courses which have been given the title "Master...", where the Universidad Isabel I simply accredits the coursework as being the equivalent of 1500 hrs or 60 ECTS. So just like a Scrum Masters certificate is not a Masters degree, neither would this be. Does that make sense?

If it isn't a degree then it's pretty much fraudulent, I hope I'm wrong.
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#54
(11-20-2019, 08:27 PM)Leedeedee Wrote: Ok, well I've got a couple of further details about the program that makes it far more iffy.
1) The quizzes are not part of your grade and not even required. They exist purely for self evaluation.  The program is entirely graded on the essay's/projects/assignments you complete for each module.   MBA = 13 projects/assignments
2) Not once have I seen the word "degree" being used in any of the literature or online.  In fact all the documentations specifically avoid the word.  I strongly suspect ( but can't yet actually prove) that these programs aren't degrees, but are in fact college training courses which have been given the title "Master...", where the Universidad Isabel I simply accredits the coursework as being the equivalent of 1500 hrs or 60 ECTS.   So just like a Scrum Masters certificate is not a Masters degree, neither would this be.  Does that make sense?  

If it isn't a degree then it's pretty much fraudulent, I hope I'm wrong.

That's because they're legally not allowed to issue degrees.
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#55
(11-20-2019, 08:27 PM)Leedeedee Wrote: Ok, well I've got a couple of further details about the program that makes it far more iffy.
1) The quizzes are not part of your grade and not even required. They exist purely for self evaluation.  The program is entirely graded on the essay's/projects/assignments you complete for each module.   MBA = 13 projects/assignments
2) Not once have I seen the word "degree" being used in any of the literature or online.  In fact all the documentations specifically avoid the word.  I strongly suspect ( but can't yet actually prove) that these programs aren't degrees, but are in fact college training courses which have been given the title "Master...", where the Universidad Isabel I simply accredits the coursework as being the equivalent of 1500 hrs or 60 ECTS.   So just like a Scrum Masters certificate is not a Masters degree, neither would this be.  Does that make sense?  

If it isn't a degree then it's pretty much fraudulent, I hope I'm wrong.

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#56
PrettyFlyforaChiGuy Wrote:But hey, the Groupon doesn't say you can't get their free tablet deal too: https://www.eneb.com/free-tablet/

Haha, Does anyone know which laptop err, tablet we're going to get? Anything like the Amazon Fire 10" or something would do. I wouldn't expect an ipad, most likely one of the cheapest ones out there...
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(11-20-2019, 10:53 PM)raycathode Wrote: "TRIPLE CERTIFICATION
At the end of your studies, you will earn a triple degree issued by ENEB Business School and Universidad Isabel I"

Yeah I can see that now, sometimes they say program and just that once they say degree.  OK I'm a little bit more reassured by that.  Smile

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(11-20-2019, 10:53 PM)raycathode Wrote:
(11-20-2019, 08:27 PM)Leedeedee Wrote: Ok, well I've got a couple of further details about the program that makes it far more iffy.
1) The quizzes are not part of your grade and not even required. They exist purely for self evaluation.  The program is entirely graded on the essay's/projects/assignments you complete for each module.   MBA = 13 projects/assignments
2) Not once have I seen the word "degree" being used in any of the literature or online.  In fact all the documentations specifically avoid the word.  I strongly suspect ( but can't yet actually prove) that these programs aren't degrees, but are in fact college training courses which have been given the title "Master...", where the Universidad Isabel I simply accredits the coursework as being the equivalent of 1500 hrs or 60 ECTS.   So just like a Scrum Masters certificate is not a Masters degree, neither would this be.  Does that make sense?  

If it isn't a degree then it's pretty much fraudulent, I hope I'm wrong.

"TRIPLE CERTIFICATION
At the end of your studies, you will earn a triple degree issued by ENEB Business School and Universidad Isabel I"

Except,  it's not a triple degree. It's one degree,  a specialist diploma,  and a business Spanish certificate.
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Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
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Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
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#59
But so far, no one knows or heard of anyone who has actually put this degree on their CV or resume or had it accepted in any way that we know of? Huh
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(11-21-2019, 08:40 PM)MrsBulletPoints Wrote: But so far, no one knows or heard of anyone who has actually put this degree on their CV or resume or had it accepted in any way that we know of? Huh

Well there are people on Linkedin with it, so I guess that's heard of someone.  Looks like the English program has only been running since April 2019, but the Spanish one has been running since 2014.   At least that's the dates their Twitter accounts were set up.
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