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Masters Not a Good Idea
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(02-19-2019, 03:00 PM)amilitab4k9 Wrote: They want only a Bachelors or a PhD

what in the world
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That's interesting because Intel has an internship specifically for people pursing a master's degree in engineering. They also have job announcements on LinkedIn asking for a master's degree in engineering.

https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=f55702...serp&vjs=3
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Intel is a vast company, with multiple offices, products, eng departments, I would not put that statement as being a global thing.
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(02-19-2019, 12:20 AM)bluebooger Wrote: > I know with teaching if you get a masters right away it can hurt 

depends on where you teach doesn't it ? 
don't some places require a masters in education ?

This refers to teaching k-12 where a bachelor's is the required degree and a masters brings a pay bump, thus schools aren't huge fans of bringing in people with master's degrees because the applicant pool of those with just a bachelor's is good. Smart teachers pursue a master's once they are in a "secure" position with a district and don't plan to change jobs.
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(02-19-2019, 04:06 PM)cookderosa Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 12:20 AM)bluebooger Wrote: > I know with teaching if you get a masters right away it can hurt 

depends on where you teach doesn't it ? 
don't some places require a masters in education ?

This refers to teaching k-12 where a bachelor's is the required degree and a masters brings a pay bump, thus schools aren't huge fans of bringing in people with master's degrees because the applicant pool of those with just a bachelor's is good.  Smart teachers pursue a master's once they are in a "secure" position with a district and don't plan to change jobs.

Exactly. That's the reason I started this thread. My mom was talking about my sister who is almost done with her Bachelors in teaching. She was discouraging her from getting her masters in teaching right away. Schools don't want to give the masters degree pay rate if they don't have to, especially if the teacher is a new teacher. That's why mom (who works for a school district) was saying how she's heard from multiple people that when choosing between two teachers (both either brand new or little experience) they will most likely choose the one with the bachelor's degree over the one with masters. This is k-12 obviously college is a whole different ball game.
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(02-19-2019, 03:41 PM)posabsolute Wrote: Intel is a vast company, with multiple offices, products, eng departments, I would not put that statement as being a global thing.

I didn't mean it as a global thing for the whole company. It was just an example of a situation where a Masters is more of a hindrance. That was 10 years ago in a specific department, I'm sure the entire company is not exactly the same and has quite a variety of needs.

(02-19-2019, 03:13 PM)sanantone Wrote: That's interesting because Intel has an internship specifically for people pursing a master's degree in engineering. They also have job announcements on LinkedIn asking for a master's degree in engineering.

https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=f55702...serp&vjs=3

Intel is a large company. I'm sure not all of the departments work the same as the one he was talking to. It was just an example, not a statement of how the entire company is run.
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(02-18-2019, 09:08 PM)cookderosa Wrote: I've heard from MANY nurses that a master's in nursing *especially a NP* without several years of experience as an RN is a terrible idea.
Yes, but now a days there are many reputed programs such as UCSF and Samuel Merit, who have Entry Level Master of Science in Nursing with NP specialization. I understand their point but when there is a need in market, there would be a training for the career. 

[url=https://www.samuelmerritt.edu/nursing/elms_nursing][/url]
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You don't necessarily need to be in a Business career to get an MBA. A lot of people that get MBA are not business majors but come from other careers. At my job my manager has a Bachelors in Engineering and holds an MBA. A lot of the nurses get MBAs and many become the directors and managers for nursing units.
Matter of fact a general Business degree in something like management is close to useless straight out of college. One of my economics Professors made a point of telling Business Administration majors to look for something else. Accounting and finance are an exception to that. In Accounting though you are probably better off getting your CPA unless you want to teach later on.
Where a Business degree is useful is when you have a career and experience already and need to move up. A lot of tradesmen and people in careers like IT could really stand out from the rest if they get BSBA or even an MBA.
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(02-19-2019, 04:06 PM)cookderosa Wrote:
(02-19-2019, 12:20 AM)bluebooger Wrote: > I know with teaching if you get a masters right away it can hurt 

depends on where you teach doesn't it ? 
don't some places require a masters in education ?

This refers to teaching k-12 where a bachelor's is the required degree and a masters brings a pay bump, thus schools aren't huge fans of bringing in people with master's degrees because the applicant pool of those with just a bachelor's is good.  Smart teachers pursue a master's once they are in a "secure" position with a district and don't plan to change jobs.

In New York, to teach K-12, a Master's degree is required to move on to the Professional certificate (you can only get an Initial teaching certificate valid for 5 years with a Bachelor's degree), so getting the Master's degree in education will not hurt you in states like NY. I was surprised when I moved to NC and discovered that a bachelor's degree was all that is needed here. 
HOWEVER, it still might be wise to wait until you're employed before seeking the Master's degree, for example when you teach for NYC you are part of the union and they have subsidized Master's degree programs for their members. http://www.uft.org/teaching/master-degree-programs
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