New "Hidden" item---Certificate?! And the second major eligible for BAS/BLS

[huiwh1998]

So basically, you can add a certificate to your degree plan, and certificate=minor. The same credits as a minor are needed to complete a certificate. You'll get an independent certificate, and your diploma won't show your minors (In my case, that's Project Management), even if you're taking BAS/BLS. (Don't quote me on that, I'm the geniea pig too)

Also, you CAN ADD a second major even if you're taking BAS/BLS. You don't have to wait for it to be conferred; re-register for a dual degree. You can do 2 majors (If Applied Science/ Liberal Studies is counted as a "major") simultaneously. You'll get 2 diplomas. (Am I the only one who is finding out this?)

Here's the proof:

[turbotortuga]

What you are trying to do is against UMPI Academic Policy. Yes, it shows in your "plan" right now but when you try to graduate and the registrar (Lisa Smith) does your degree audit by hand, she's going to email you to let you know that you are going to have to choose a path. You can either get the BAS/BLS OR the BA Accounting, but not both on your first degree. But you can try it all you like. She's not going to allow it. I know becuase I have a degree with a double major of BA Accounting/BBA Management & Leadership.

https://catalog.umpi.edu/content.php?cat...ble-majors

And not all certificates are the same as the minors, some require extra courses. It just depends on which you select. Also minors do not show on the diploma, only exception is BAS/BLS "majors".

[huiwh1998]

What you are trying to do is against UMPI Academic Policy. Yes, it shows in your "plan" right now but when you try to graduate and the registrar (Lisa Smith) does your degree audit by hand, she's going to email you to let you know that you are going to have to choose a path. You can either get the BAS/BLS OR the BA Accounting, but not both on your first degree. But you can try it all you like. She's not going to allow it. I know becuase I have a degree with a double major of BA Accounting/BBA Management & Leadership.

https://catalog.umpi.edu/content.php?cat...ble-majors

And not all certificates are the same as the minors, some require extra courses. It just depends on which you select. Also minors do not show on the diploma, only exception is BAS/BLS "majors".

I've confirmed it with my academic advisor. Otherwise, I won't be allowed to add the 2nd major. I thought the same as you before. But you should be able to get a BA double major simultaneously, because I'm pretty sure someone here (or somewhere else, I forgot) did a double major conferred in one degree (diploma).

[turbotortuga]

What you are trying to do is against UMPI Academic Policy. Yes, it shows in your "plan" right now but when you try to graduate and the registrar (Lisa Smith) does your degree audit by hand, she's going to email you to let you know that you are going to have to choose a path. You can either get the BAS/BLS OR the BA Accounting, but not both on your first degree. But you can try it all you like. She's not going to allow it. I know becuase I have a degree with a double major of BA Accounting/BBA Management & Leadership.

https://catalog.umpi.edu/content.php?cat...ble-majors

And not all certificates are the same as the minors, some require extra courses. It just depends on which you select. Also minors do not show on the diploma, only exception is BAS/BLS "majors".

I've confirmed it with my academic advisor. Otherwise, I won't be allowed to add the 2nd major. I thought the same as you before. But you should be able to get a BA double major simultaneously, because I'm pretty sure someone here (or somewhere else, I forgot) did a double major conferred in one degree (diploma).

Bruh, did you read the link that I posted previously? It literally says that you cannot do what you are asking right there. Your academic advisor doesn't grant degrees. Lisa Smith, the UMPI Registrar does. And UMPI's system is not very robust, the controls are pretty bad so no doubt it will let you add things that aren't actually possible. No one here has gotten an Double Major that includes BAS/BLS, because it's not possible due to the UMPI Academic Policy against it. If you want to know if what you are asking will fly, then send Lisa Smith an email. She'll respond eventually, when she has time, but honestly, it says it right there in the UMPI Academic Catalog. I'm not sure why you want to try it honestly.

[huiwh1998]

What you are trying to do is against UMPI Academic Policy. Yes, it shows in your "plan" right now but when you try to graduate and the registrar (Lisa Smith) does your degree audit by hand, she's going to email you to let you know that you are going to have to choose a path. You can either get the BAS/BLS OR the BA Accounting, but not both on your first degree. But you can try it all you like. She's not going to allow it. I know becuase I have a degree with a double major of BA Accounting/BBA Management & Leadership.

https://catalog.umpi.edu/content.php?cat...ble-majors

And not all certificates are the same as the minors, some require extra courses. It just depends on which you select. Also minors do not show on the diploma, only exception is BAS/BLS "majors".

I've confirmed it with my academic advisor. Otherwise, I won't be allowed to add the 2nd major. I thought the same as you before. But you should be able to get a BA double major simultaneously, because I'm pretty sure someone here (or somewhere else, I forgot) did a double major conferred in one degree (diploma).

Bruh, did you read the link that I posted previously? It literally says that you cannot do what you are asking right there. Your academic advisor doesn't grant degrees. Lisa Smith, the UMPI Registrar does. And UMPI's system is not very robust, the controls are pretty bad so no doubt it will let you add things that aren't actually possible. No one here has gotten an Double Major that includes BAS/BLS, because it's not possible due to the UMPI Academic Policy against it. If you want to know if what you are asking will fly, then send Lisa Smith an email. She'll respond eventually, when she has time, but honestly, it says it right there in the UMPI Academic Catalog. I'm not sure why you want to try it honestly.

I applied for graduation in the first place, and was thinking of doing a second degree, since my advisor told me that I'm eligible for a second major, I canceled my graduation at the last minute, around 7/2, almost the end of this section (Summer 1).  My "case" has gone through the office of student records.  But knowing that I could do a double major (It's still 2 diplomas in my case, not sure why it is called a double major, I guess it is what it is), then I decided to switch. We'll see how it goes, not gonna argue with you. Maybe you should ask for the most updated UMPI Policy on Dual Degrees and Double Majors.

https://dropvader.s3.amazonaws.com/uploa...1751803982


I downloaded the PDF from my email from my advisor (in effect as of February 7, 2025). At the bottom, it states:

[Explanatory note (not for catalog publication): This allows both the BLS and the BAS to
be declared as the initial major and a subsequent major(s) to be added at a later date;
or the BLS or BAS to serve as a second major. This brings the majors into alignment
with all other programs within the University's curriculum.

[turbotortuga]

I applied for graduation in the first place, and was thinking of doing a second degree, since my advisor told me that I'm eligible for a second major, I canceled my graduation at the last minute, around 7/2, almost the end of this section (Summer 1).  My "case" has gone through the office of student records.  But knowing that I could do a double major (It's still 2 diplomas in my case, not sure why it is called a double major, I guess it is what it is), then I decided to switch. We'll see how it goes, not gonna argue with you. Maybe you should ask for the most updated UMPI Policy on Dual Degrees and Double Majors.

https://dropvader.s3.amazonaws.com/uploa...1751803982


I downloaded the PDF from my email from my advisor (in effect as of February 7, 2025). At the bottom, it states:

[Explanatory note (not for catalog publication): This allows both the BLS and the BAS to
be declared as the initial major and a subsequent major(s) to be added at a later date;
or the BLS or BAS to serve as a second major. This brings the majors into alignment
with all other programs within the University's curriculum.

Interesting. So they revised the Academic Policy but haven't actually posted anything public facing yet. Good to know. As an aside, you are not currently setup to received a "dual-degree". You will receive a "double major". That is two majors on one degree, just like I did. If you want "two degrees", then you'll have to graduate and be awarded the BAS/BLS or BA Accounting, then come back and pay for another session to get the second. That's delineated in the updated UMPI Academic Policy that you posted as well.

[bjcheung77]

Interesting indeed, I wonder how that would work, 2 Degrees and a Certificate all in one... They've made it very similar to TESU's options, and you don't need to graduate one and then come back for the other it seems. Good update, let's see how this pans out...

[huiwh1998]

Interesting indeed, I wonder how that would work, 2 Degrees and a Certificate all in one... They've made it very similar to TESU's options, and you don't need to graduate one and then come back for the other it seems.  Good update, let's see how this pans out...

For the Project Management Certificate, I have the remaining courses the same as the Project Management Minor (I didn't enroll, I asked "what if" I have a PM minor, and the remaining courses are the same as the PM Cert), so I suspect a Minor = Certificate. Not only can you get a free AALS, if you plan accordingly, you can have a free certificate as well...

[bjcheung77]

Yes, TESU allows 2 Associates, 2 Bachelors, and up to 4 certificates, all in one option (if you can get them)...