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Philosophical-the future of B&M universities
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All very interesting contributions. It ties in with career advice I might offer my kids. Many websites list "teacher" among jobs that will be extinct in 50 years. But then, kids still need to be warehoused while their parents work. What will that look like? A huge room with 200 computers and 1 adult supervisor? That would be the most efficient. Of course, the wealthy would choose private schools with a very different curriculum and class size. Since many jobs of 2050 have not yet been invented, I will just continue to teach my kids to learn how to learn, think critically, speak the truth, do the right thing and be kind and hope and pray that they will be ok. No no, not just ok but have a spectacular life and leave the world a better place.
Another anecdote: My Dad in the 1950s in Germany had "typewriter mechanic/repairman" as a dream job. He was devastated when he did not get accepted.(good luck finding a job in that line of work today...) He spent his career as an accountant. It paid the bills, but he did not love it. He tinkered with mechanical and electronic things in his spare time: Bottomline: sometimes things happen for a reason, things change, sometimes you have to do what you have to do.
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A robot or some highly interactive platform using AI or quasi AI will tailor instruction to the individual´s wants or competencies. You come home and the platform of your choice creates a lesson plan for you. It can goad or challenge you. It will reward you for progress, possibly punish you for failure. Via constant testing it will know where to steer you. It will schedule meet-ups with other students as needed. It will set appointments for you to attend lectures or seminars based on your interests. It will probably work with other platforms to even schedule and pay the presenters. Degrees will mean much less because competency-based examinations and real-world, hands-on projects will trump them.

¨Alexa, I want to be an expert in medieval European history.¨
¨How much time do you wish to allocate?¨
¨Mmmm, 4 hours per week¨
¨Okay, dedicating 4 hours for week, you can be an expert in medieval European history in approximately 38 months¨
¨Fine, let us begin on Monday¨

You will receive lessons during your driver-less commute. Your television viewing will be an actual PROGRAMMING schedule based on your desired outcomes.

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I’m not a huge fan of renting out condos simply because of the unlimited HOA rules that tenants ignore and the fines landlords eat.

Look rather at buying a single family home in Indianapolis. You should be able to get two for the price of one condo in Ft. Collins and collect double the rent. Plus SFR renters are more long term.

As for the future of education I think holograms and platforms like coursera will replace most traditional colleges.

And yes I was a C student and college dropout who eventually went into the property rental business.
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This is sort of on the topic. I came across this MOOC about what high school curriculums should be like in the future. https://www.edx.org/course/envisioning-t...the-future
It might have some interesting information. I haven't enrolled (yet). From the description it sounds like they really want to get input from everyone, rather than just teach the topic.

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Started reading "The vanishing American adult" by Ben Sasse, as suggested in this thread. Great book, recommended for all of you parents out there.
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I think a lot of the reason why more people don't go the PLA route NOW is due to prestige factor. Back when BAin4weeks first came out (or at least when I discovered it), most state colleges/universities only allowed you to CLEP out of a very limited number of classes. 4 or 5 or something insanely low like that. The Big 3 allowed more than that AND they looked like diploma mills (Charter Oak still does...). Online classes were a thing that didn't happen except with cheap community colleges.

But now more B&M universities are offering online classes and offering alternate credit sources to boost their numbers. They can see the direction of the future and that's the end of the tuition bubble. I'm not sure it'll pop suddenly like the housing market did, but it'll definitely deflate and it already seems to be doing so to some extent.
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(03-17-2018, 12:09 PM)rachel83az Wrote: The Big 3 allowed more than that AND they looked like diploma mills (Charter Oak still does...).

I don't understand why people think this about COSC. Their site seems fine to me? I'm curious.

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(03-17-2018, 12:46 PM)Ideas Wrote:
(03-17-2018, 12:09 PM)rachel83az Wrote: The Big 3 allowed more than that AND they looked like diploma mills (Charter Oak still does...).

I don't understand why people think this about COSC. Their site seems fine to me? I'm curious.

It looks cheap and poorly designed when compared to other university websites out there. They also offer relatively few degree programs. The giant alternate ways to earn credit thing right there doesn't help either (that's something diploma mills do). An employer who is just giving a cursory look at the site might have second thoughts about hiring someone from Charter Oak.  That said, I might consider getting a degree through them at some point anyway.
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(03-17-2018, 01:07 PM)rachel83az Wrote: It looks cheap and poorly designed when compared to other university websites out there. They also offer relatively few degree programs. The giant alternate ways to earn credit thing right there doesn't help either (that's something diploma mills do). An employer who is just giving a cursory look at the site might have second thoughts about hiring someone from Charter Oak.  That said, I might consider getting a degree through them at some point anyway.

Thanks for explaining. Since they added the newest degrees, I think they look a lot better. For a long time, they had so few degrees in that menu.

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The couple of times I was asked about COSC, I simply replied that it was a small state college in CT. This is true and I've been there - when I graduated.

I don't know what normally happens, but I don't think that it's typical for a recruiter to go to your college website. I am pretty sure that they just look up whether it's RA, rather than taking time to evaluate it for themselves. (Ha they don't even read your resume, much less surf the net trying to find reasons not to hire you!)

And if all else fails, the very best way to "distract" a recruiter from your Big 3 degree is to get a master's degree! I get TONS more questions about my really cool grad program than my fairly boring undergrad!
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