Received TESC Eval - Help me pick a new plan please

[pitbull30]

I had a evaluation done at TESC and it appears that only 15 of my past credits will apply into the program. The program I chose was the General Management/Business. My military courses didn’t transfer to anything. Then all of the FEMA credits I have look like they didn’t apply to anything. They have a NE after them. Also 2 courses I took at the local CC didn’t apply. One was English and the other was a health class. Health was listed as a duplicate because I guess I had taken a CLEP on that awhile back so I can understand that one.

They said I can have one more evaluation done with another program to see if more will fit. Can any of you recommend a program that I might get more bang for my credit buck? Or might take a bunch of the FEMA credits at least to make up for some of the others? The concentration of the degree is pretty open for me. Its more of a “checkmark” on the company eval for me.

Thanks for any advice you can give.

[Elinor]

I had a evaluation done at TESC and it appears that only 15 of my past credits will apply into the program. The program I chose was the General Management/Business. My military courses didn’t transfer to anything. Then all of the FEMA credits I have look like they didn’t apply to anything. They have a NE after them. Also 2 courses I took at the local CC didn’t apply. One was English and the other was a health class. Health was listed as a duplicate because I guess I had taken a CLEP on that awhile back so I can understand that one.

They said I can have one more evaluation done with another program to see if more will fit. Can any of you recommend a program that I might get more bang for my credit buck? Or might take a bunch of the FEMA credits at least to make up for some of the others? The concentration of the degree is pretty open for me. Its more of a “checkmark” on the company eval for me.

Thanks for any advice you can give.

I don't know what all your courses were, but I can answer the FEMA issue. The "NE" after each FEMA course on your evaluation means "non-course equivalency." In my experience, FEMAs, CLEPs, DSSTs, and ECEs all have the "NE" after them at TESC. On my evaluations, the "NE" has an asterisk in front of it; the meaning should be at the bottom of the evaluation.

Hope this helps! Good luck with your degree!

[skyfall123]

The Business degree requires very specific courses and includes only 6 credits for FREE ELECTIVES (like FEMA). Thomas Edison State College | BSBA in General Management Credit Distribution

Your previous courses may not have fit into the Business major and they may have filled the 6 FREE ELECTIVES, so everything else that didn't fit was marked NE.

Any Bachelor of Arts allows 27 FREE electives (including up to 24 FEMAS). The most flexible BA is Liberal Arts. Thomas Edison State College | BA in Liberal Studies Credit Distribution

[pitbull30]

Ok that helps. Here is the actual transcript. I really appreciate the help decrypting all these credit rules. I highlighted in red the actual courses they gave me credit for that way you dont have to read all of the outline.

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Program: BSBA General Management

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S.H. S.H. Applied S.H. Comm Coll S.H to Overall TESC
Required to Degree Req Remaining S.H. Applied be Planned GPA Met GPA
120.00 15.00 105.00 6.00 105.00 YES
================================================================================

1 Community College 2 Thomas A. Edison State College

General Education (60sh)
Semester Hours Completed: 9.00

Complete all 9 subrequirements:
A: English Comp (Not Started)
> Complete one full year of English Composition with a grade
> of C or better.
Semester Hours Completed: 0.00
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
Group 1 (Not Started)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ ENC-101___ _________________________ _____________________________ 1 course
___ ENC-102___ _________________________ _____________________________ 1 course

B: Mgrl/Bus Communs (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours in managerial communications or
> business communications.
> MAN-373
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

C: Humanities Electives (In Progress)
> Complete 9 semester hours from humanities; minimum 2 de-
> partments required.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. ART105 History Asian Art........ 3.00 A ART-199 *CC *TE
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

D: Macro/Microeconomics (Not Started)
> Complete one full year of economics (micro/macroeconomics)
Semester Hours Completed: 0.00
Group 1 (Not Started)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ ECO-111___ _________________________ _____________________________ 1 course
___ ECO-112___ _________________________ _____________________________ 1 course

E: Social Sciences (Completed)
> Complete 6 semester hours from the social sciences with
> the exception of economics.
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
[COLOR="Red"]2.. SOC-101... Introduction to Sociology 3.00 CR SOC-101 *NE
2.. PSY-101... Introduction to Psycholog 3.00 CR PSY-101 *NE[/COLOR]

F: Precalculus (Not Started)
> Take 3 semester hours of Quantitative Business Analysis or
> Precalculus. Students who have completed College Algebra
> should take MAT-129 to avoid duplication of credit.
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

G: Statistics (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours in introductory statistics.
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

H: Natural Sci/Math (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours from Natural Sciences Department;
> except the mathematics department.

I: General Educ Elects (Not Started)
> Complete 21 semester hours in humanities, social sciences
> and natural sciences/mathematics (any combination).
credits
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
================================================================================
Core (27sh)
Semester Hours Completed: 0.00
Complete all 8 subrequirements:
A: Intr Finl/Mgrl Acctg (Not Started)
> Complete one full year of Introductory/Principles of
> Accounting (Introduction to Financial Accounting and Intro-
> duction to Managerial Accounting)
Semester Hours Completed: 0.00
Group 1 (Not Started)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ ACC-101___ _________________________ _____________________________ 1 course
___ ACC-102___ _________________________ _____________________________ 1 course

B: Business Law (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Business Law.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ LAW-201___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed

C: Compu Lit/Intr CIS (Not Started)
> Complete 3 hours in an introduction to information systems,
> introduction to computers, computer literacy, or an intro-
> ductory computing course with applications such as word pro-
> cessing, spreadsheets, and databases.
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

D: Princ of Finance (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Principles of Finance.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ FIN-301___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed

E: Prins of Management (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Principles of Management.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ MAN-301___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed

F: Intro to Marketing (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Introduction to Marketing.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ MAR-301___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed

G: Bus in Soc/Int'l Mgt (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of business in society, introduc-
> tion to international business, international management or
> international marketing.

H: Business Policy (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours in business policy.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ BUS-421___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed
================================================================================
General Management Specialization (18sh)
Semester Hours Completed: 0.00
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
Complete both subrequirements:
A: GMS Required Areas (Not Started)
> Complete one three semester hour course in three of the
> following four areas: Accounting, Finance, Management,
> Marketing. These courses must be above the introductory
> level.

Semester Hours Completed: 0.00
Group 1 (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
Group 2 (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
Group 3 (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

B: GMS Elective Area (Not Started)
> Complete three more 3 semester hour courses from any
> assortment of the four areas above, using courses above the
> introductory level.
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
================================================================================
Business Electives (9sh)
> Complete 9 sh from accounting, banking, business, computer
> applications, computer information systems, finance,
> management, hotel/motel/restaurant management, insurance,
> operations management, public administration, real
> estate, law, marketing, and retailing management,
> fundraising.
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
================================================================================
Free Electives (6sh)
> Complete 6 semester hours.
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
[COLOR="Red"]1.. HEALTH011 Prin Healthful Living.... 3.00 B HEA-103 *CC *TE
2.. TEC-199... Spec. Stud. in Selected T 3.00 CR TEC-199 *NE[/COLOR]

[pitbull30]

Here is the rest.

OTHER COURSES:
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
--- ---------- ------------------------- ------- --- ---------- ---------

[COLOR="Red"]2 HEA-106 Personal Health 1.00 CR HEA-106 *NE
2 HEA-195 First Aid 1.00 CR HEA-195 *NE
2 PEA-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected T 1.00 CR PEA-199 *NE
2 AVM-102 Basic Aviation Maintenanc 1.00 CR AVM-102 *NE[/COLOR]


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[COLOR="Red"]2 HEA-103 Here's To Your Health - CLEP 3.00 CR HEA-103 *RI*NE*DUP
2 EDM-101 Emer.Prog.Mgr.Orient.To P 1.00 CR EDM-101 *NE
2 EDM-399 Spec. Stud. in Selected T 1.00 CR EDM-399 *NE
2 EDM-154 Hazardous Materials:a Cit 1.00 CR EDM-154 *NE
2 EDM-103 A Citizen's Guide to Dis. 1.00 CR EDM-103 *NE
2 EDM-190 Build.For Earthqua.Of Tom 1.00 CR EDM-190 *NE
2 EDM-191 Animals in Disaster-A 1.00 CR EDM-191 *NE
2 EDM-192 Animals in Disaster-B Com 1.00 CR EDM-192 *NE
2 EDM-223 Special Events Contingenc 1.00 CR EDM-223 *NE
2 EDM-193 Livestock in Disasters 1.00 CR EDM-193 *NE
2 EDM-120 Orien.To Comm.Dis. Exerci 1.00 CR EDM-120 *NE
2 EDM-203 Exercise Design 1.00 CR EDM-203 *NE
2 EDM-126 State Disaster Management 1.00 CR EDM-126 *NE
2 EDM-107 Principles of Emer Manage 1.00 CR EDM-107 *NE
2 EDM-224 Emergency Planning 1.00 CR EDM-224 *NE
2 EDM-207 Leadership and Influence 1.00 CR EDM-207 *NE
2 EDM-208 Decision Making & Problem 1.00 CR EDM-208 *NE
2 EDM-209 Effective Communications 1.00 CR EDM-209 *NE
2 EDM-210 Developing & Managing Vol 1.00 CR EDM-210 *NE
2 EDM-124 EOC Role in Comm Prepared 1.00 CR EDM-124 *NE
2 EDM-130 Eng.Prin.& Prac Flood Pro 1.00 CR EDM-130 *NE
2 EDM-122 Role/Volunteer Agen in Em 1.00 CR EDM-122 *NE

2 EDM-172 Radiological Emergency Re 1.00 CR EDM-172 *NE
2 EDM-155 Orien. Haz Mat for Med. P 1.00 CR EDM-155 *NE
2 EDM-140 Introduction to Mitigatio 1.00 CR EDM-140 *NE
2 EDM-303 Professional in Emerg.Mgt 1.00 CR EDM-303 *NE
1 ENGLISH028 Int Reading & Comp 0.00 A DEC-012 *RI*TE*DEV*CC
(Credits in parentheses are anticipated earned)[/COLOR]

[KayV]

Do you happen to have a list of all the classes/ exams you have passed, even if TESC didn't put them on this degree plan? You might have extras that would apply to a different degree. What did you have from the military, for example?

ETA: Great minds, thinking alike. Thanks for adding them.

[skyfall123]

Good job posting the evaluation..it makes it easier. So yes, the 6 FREE ELECTIVES were filled so everything else went to OTHER COURSES.

So right off by switching to a BA you will gain 21 credits (all FREE ELECTIVES).

You have a lot of areas to choose from Thomas Edison State College | Bachelor of Arts
or go for the Liberal Studies.

The only other one you may consider if it has any potential to help your career is this one Thomas Edison State College | Credit Distribution for Bachelor of Science in Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness Since theoretically it would apply some of the FEMAS to the area of study and then all the rest would go to FREE ELECTIVES which means you would pick up an additional 29 credits which include all the OTHER credits except "Heres to your Health" which was duplicate credit.

The English course was marked DEV which means it was developmental...probably a requirement of the CC. Those credits are lost.

[pitbull30]

Here is what my transcript says from the military. They all have a ACE identifier code.

firstaid -1 - Lower Level
fitness- 1 - Lower Level
health - 1 - Lower Level

Aviation Maintenance - 1 - Lower Level

Aircraft Maintenance - 2- Vocational

Mechanical Fundamentals- 3 - Lower Level

[skyfall123]

Here is what my transcript says from the military. They all have a ACE identifier code.

firstaid -1 - Lower Level
fitness- 1 - Lower Level
health - 1 - Lower Level

Aviation Maintenance - 1 - Lower Level

Aircraft Maintenance - 2- Vocational

Mechanical Fundamentals- 3 - Lower Level

Here's how I'm guessing they credited them:

(health - 1 - Lower Level) 2 HEA-106 Personal Health 1.00 CR HEA-106 *NE
(firstaid -1 - Lower Level) 2 HEA-195 First Aid 1.00 CR HEA-195 *NE
(fitness- 1 - Lower Level) No credit given for fitness, I think that is TESC policy

(Aviation Maintenance - 1 - Lower Level) 2 AVM-102 Basic Aviation Maintenanc 1.00 CR AVM-102 *NE


That leaves:
Aircraft Maintenance - 2- Vocational
Mechanical Fundamentals- 3 - Lower Level
and 1 credit given as
2 PEA-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected T 1.00 CR PEA-199 *NE ?????

So if you go for a regular BA the extra credits would not matter since your FREE ELECTIVES would be filled. If you went for the BS Homeland Security then I would challenge the amount of credit given for:
Aircraft Maintenance - 2- Vocational
Mechanical Fundamentals- 3 - Lower Level

Since you could in theory apply extra credits to FREE ELECTIVES since many of the FEMAS would apply to the Area of Study.

[ryoder]

Login to the webadvisor app and play around with it. Change your degree plan to BALS and see how it works out. You can do what if scenarios in that app for all the degree types.

https://webadvisor1.tesc.edu:443/WebAdvisor/WebAdvisor

I think should have a login already if you have an eval.