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08-18-2018, 01:05 PM
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Hello all,
I am starting to explore ACE credit options for my younger son. Last year when I google searched free algebra practice problems, we used some from Saylor's MA001 College Algebra so I thought for this school year I would enroll him in that course to see if he can earn some credit for it. From their website it looks like it's only NCCRS recommended?? https://www.saylor.org/credit/#available-courses I thought it was ACE approved because I remember seeing it as an option in the Alternative Credit Project. Anyone have any info on whether this might become ACE approved again or should I look elsewhere?
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Hmmm. It's not listed on the ACE website. Have you looked into ALEKs for algebra and a few others?
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(08-18-2018, 01:05 PM)magflo Wrote: Hello all,
I am starting to explore ACE credit options for my younger son. Last year when I google searched free algebra practice problems, we used some from Saylor's MA001 College Algebra so I thought for this school year I would enroll him in that course to see if he can earn some credit for it. From their website it looks like it's only NCCRS recommended?? https://www.saylor.org/credit/#available-courses I thought it was ACE approved because I remember seeing it as an option in the Alternative Credit Project. Anyone have any info on whether this might become ACE approved again or should I look elsewhere?
There are a ton of options for College Algebra, so if you don't want NCCRS credits then you can always choose another provider. NCCRS credits are just as good as ACE as long as the provider sticks around or the college you're sending them to is the one your son plans to graduate from.
Personally, I suggest ALEKS as well, as they're inexpensive, ACE recommended, and you can work at your own pace.
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08-18-2018, 02:27 PM
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So ALEKS is ACE recommended for college credit again? I thought they had lost their ACE recommendation.
Edit: I just looked it up and saw that it is!
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08-18-2018, 07:18 PM
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My advice for a teen is to use the curriculum of choice (I'd use Khan Academy-free) and then zip through the Modern States to get the free CLEP voucher. Worst case, the voucher program expires, you're still better off with CLEP credit over NCCRS or even ACE unless you're already picking a target college - at that point choose whatever is accepted. If you're still playing odds, CLEP beats ACE/NCCRS.
Edit to add: depending on the regular math curriculum, once you're past Algebra 2, the "next" book usually gives a bit of pre-calc. You don't need a ton of precalc for that exam, but solid on Algebra 2 for sure.
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(08-18-2018, 07:18 PM)cookderosa Wrote: My advice for a teen is to use the curriculum of choice (I'd use Khan Academy-free) and then zip through the Modern States to get the free CLEP voucher. Worst case, the voucher program expires, you're still better off with CLEP credit over NCCRS or even ACE unless you're already picking a target college - at that point choose whatever is accepted. If you're still playing odds, CLEP beats ACE/NCCRS.
Edit to add: depending on the regular math curriculum, once you're past Algebra 2, the "next" book usually gives a bit of pre-calc. You don't need a ton of precalc for that exam, but solid on Algebra 2 for sure.
That actually makes good sense... assuming they have local CLEP testing opportunities. I prefer CLEP testing myself, but unfortunately, some of us live in areas where the only nearby test centers are closed to the public, or there are no testing centers at all. I always forget to suggest CLEP due to this.
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08-18-2018, 08:17 PM
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(08-18-2018, 07:18 PM)cookderosa Wrote: My advice for a teen is to use the curriculum of choice (I'd use Khan Academy-free) and then zip through the Modern States to get the free CLEP voucher. Worst case, the voucher program expires, you're still better off with CLEP credit over NCCRS or even ACE unless you're already picking a target college - at that point choose whatever is accepted. If you're still playing odds, CLEP beats ACE/NCCRS.
Edit to add: depending on the regular math curriculum, once you're past Algebra 2, the "next" book usually gives a bit of pre-calc. You don't need a ton of precalc for that exam, but solid on Algebra 2 for sure.
Yeah, CLEP for sure has been good to us with my older son. I'm just not confident my younger son would do as well on a Math CLEP which is why I thought about having him do the Saylor College Algebra course since he actually worked through some of that course's worksheets last year, but if it's not ACE accredited it's a no go for us because one of the schools we're considering *might* take ACE but def not NCCRS.
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One of the nice things about alternative credit is that not passing a test doesn't carry the same GPA baggage that failing a regular course (or even getting a C) would... If they don't pass the CLEP, then they can either try ALEKS, or try the CLEP again after a while.
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08-19-2018, 09:21 PM
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(08-18-2018, 08:17 PM)magflo Wrote: (08-18-2018, 07:18 PM)cookderosa Wrote: My advice for a teen is to use the curriculum of choice (I'd use Khan Academy-free) and then zip through the Modern States to get the free CLEP voucher. Worst case, the voucher program expires, you're still better off with CLEP credit over NCCRS or even ACE unless you're already picking a target college - at that point choose whatever is accepted. If you're still playing odds, CLEP beats ACE/NCCRS.
Edit to add: depending on the regular math curriculum, once you're past Algebra 2, the "next" book usually gives a bit of pre-calc. You don't need a ton of precalc for that exam, but solid on Algebra 2 for sure.
Yeah, CLEP for sure has been good to us with my older son. I'm just not confident my younger son would do as well on a Math CLEP which is why I thought about having him do the Saylor College Algebra course since he actually worked through some of that course's worksheets last year, but if it's not ACE accredited it's a no go for us because one of the schools we're considering *might* take ACE but def not NCCRS.
Saylor's is also credit by exam. You don't have to use their curriculum (you can) but it's exactly like CLEP in that the entire program is based on 1 exam - pass/fail, so since the CLEP exam is accepted for credit at twice as many colleges as those that accept Saylor, you're essentially having him do the CLEP but without the upside.
If CLEP is off the table (as is the case with one of my sons) you can probably do a lot better with Straighterline or Study. My son that couldn't pass a CLEP for a million dollars earned a ton of credit via Straighterline since the homework counts for almost the whole grade and the exam for very little. In other words, he went into most of his exams having already earned enough points to pass the class (or super close to it).
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