anyone here knows if these coopersmith courses still valid in TESU?

[StudentOLife]

On the linked page. Scroll down.

I'm trying to find out when it'd end. But that link just says.. Dates: April 2019 - Present. 

[bjcheung77]

I usually recommend sticking with ACE providers unless you can't find an affordable option - then go for NCCRS. I can assure you that these dates are valid until they update the course contents, if the course contents have not changed, they will continue being recommended for credit at NCCRS. You have at least 3-5 years from the initial date of recommendation, after that, the course may be reviewed for relevant content. Unless the course is a computer science or technology course, I don't think there are many updates to courses in other subject areas. ACE and NCCRS are different beasts altogether, for NCCRS it's harder to find out "what time stamps" are available. The worst that can happen is the provide goes out of business and POOF! The date range of validity won't matter at all...

[StudentOLife]

I usually recommend sticking with ACE providers unless you can't find an affordable option - then go for NCCRS.  I can assure you that these dates are valid until they update the course contents, if the course contents have not changed, they will continue being recommended for credit at NCCRS.  You have at least 3-5 years from the initial date of recommendation, after that, the course may be reviewed for relevant content.  Unless the course is a computer science or technology course, I don't think there are many updates to courses in other subject areas.  ACE and NCCRS are different beasts altogether, for NCCRS it's harder to find out "what time stamps" are available.  The worst that can happen is the provide goes out of business and POOF! The date range of validity won't matter at all...

Thanks @bjcheung77, always the golden advice, their site is a bit dodgy but there isn't many other cheap Linear Algebra or UL math courses I can find. Sad to know it's a bit of a surprise, I guess I can only cross my fingers...

[StudentOLife]

@Dorothy44 How do I check that it is still ace approved? I tried searching on the ACE site(https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...fault.aspx) but can't seem to find anything about Coopersmith.

@rachel83az, I see, I'm going for Math/CS BA, so I reckon I'm fine? I wish they'd announce their partnership end dates somewhere...!

Coopersmith uses NCCRS, not ACE. Their page can be found here: http://www.nationalccrs.org/organization...consulting

At the very least, even if it's not accepted for your CS then it should be fine for math.  So you're good.

I've had an advisor tell me a couple years back that it's fine for both, the advisor actually recommended I take that and use it for both Math and CS. They won't change this half way will they...? I know the best way is to ask them but I don't want to jinx it since I'm half way through some of coopersmiths courses lol.

Edit: do you remember the source where you heard about Coopersmith Linear Algebra being not valid for CS?

[rachel83az]

A couple years ago, it was fine. Recently, in the past year or two, a few students have been reporting that it is no longer an accepted class for computer science. But others have been reporting that it's fine and was accepted for their Comp Sci degree. No idea why different students are getting told different things.

[StudentOLife]

A couple years ago, it was fine. Recently, in the past year or two, a few students have been reporting that it is no longer an accepted class for computer science. But others have been reporting that it's fine and was accepted for their Comp Sci degree. No idea why different students are getting told different things.

Thanks Rachel for the response! I see, so just based on general consensus, not a source or something specific you read somewhere

[bluebooger]

For the bachelors in mathematics TESU says that linear algebra must be calculus based (and must have calculus in the description)
coopersmiths's course does not

https://www.tesu.edu/heavin/ba/mathematics
Linear Algebra (calculus-based) (prerequisite of calculus in description)

https://www.coopersmithcc.net/shop/

[StudentOLife]

For the bachelors in mathematics TESU says that linear algebra must be calculus based (and must have calculus in the description)            
coopersmiths's course does not

https://www.tesu.edu/heavin/ba/mathematics
Linear Algebra (calculus-based) (prerequisite of calculus in description)

https://www.coopersmithcc.net/shop/

I've gotten it accepted at the beginning of my enrollment (> a year ago) and planned in. Have you gotten a rejection recently..? I wonder if catalogue year is what makes the difference?

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IMHO, I think TESU was moving away from providers because they were going to have to implement 30 RA credits.   They probably saw it coming down the road.  I would think if they are on your degree plan, then the courses should work?  Not sure how long ago you asked about the courses, but I was never given an end date for several courses listed on the degree plan from SDC.  

I know that my advisor checked ACE's website to make sure of the date that certain courses were going to lose their accreditation.  One course was due to lose it, and he said to watch it because it may expire or be renewed.  Thankfully, it was renewed.  

I would just shoot an email to TESU though if you are concerned.  Personally, I would not be concerned because if they approved it for your degree plan, and it is still ACE approved then in my mind it should still work.

Hey @Dorothy44, do i need to worry if I fall into inactive status, is it safe to assume all of them will remain once it's accepted into the degree plan?

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@Dorothy44 How do I check that it is still ace approved? I tried searching on the ACE site(https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...fault.aspx) but can't seem to find anything about Coopersmith.

@rachel83az, I see, I'm going for Math/CS BA, so I reckon I'm fine? I wish they'd announce their partnership end dates somewhere...!

Coopersmith uses NCCRS, not ACE. Their page can be found here: http://www.nationalccrs.org/organization...consulting

At the very least, even if it's not accepted for your CS then it should be fine for math.  So you're good.

i"m able to double count my Linear algebra for both Math and CS, that was planned in Q2 2020 without an end date. I'm really hoping nothing's suddenly changed...? :/

[Ideas]

Yes catalog year is the key factor for linear algebra acceptance.

[StudentOLife]

Yes catalog year is the key factor for linear algebra acceptance.

Thanks for the response @ideas, does catalogue date change if we become inactive(after 1 year)? or does it only change after 3 years?