rebel100 Wrote:Or pick them up on my schedule at $600 from the University of Idaho.....this is an easy decision.

Lyanne Wrote:I'm taking War and American Society and I love it. I used it to replace World Conflicts which I was having a hard time with. I started in May.

IrishJohn Wrote:Rechtschaffen is probably your best bet as far as cost goes, but check with TESC first before you sign up for any of their history courses there. There shouldn't be a problem but no one here has taken advantage of this option yet.

Another option you might consider is one I did back in 2010 when I finished my BA in History through TESC: since you're taking DSST Intro to the Modern Middle East exam, sign up for HIS310 The Middle East through TESC. That course covers virtually the same material as the DSST so if you do well in one you should ace the other very easily, or at least that was my experience. Of course back then there wasn't a capstone requirement so I took that course to also ensure I had a GPA at TESC.

Westerner Wrote:If it helps, Taylor, here's what I have planned for my History credits

LL DSST Civil War & Reconstruction (3)
UL DSST Introduction to the Mdern Middle East (3)
UL DSST Rise & Fall of the Soviet Union (3)
UL DSST History of the Vietnam War (3)
UL Excelsior World Conflicts Since 1900 (3)
UL TESC course "Leaders in History" (3)
UL TESC course "Liberal Arts Capstone" (3)

JohnnyHeck Wrote:I had some of the same issues with TESC in BA Music over UL vs LL course transfer equivalencies (TE). Sanantone may disagree with me but what I seem to think is that your desired UL course must not have any words in the title that match a TESC TE LL (see PLA database for possible matches) I only needed a couple of UL courses in music. I found many designated as such at ASU, U.TxPermain Basin, Valley City ND and even UCLA, But if the course had a tiltle that was already in the TESC database as similar to a LL that was it, relegated to LL! E.g. A UL course in Rock & Roll could not be UL at TESC because a music Rock & Roll history course was already in the database as LL. I finally scored with ASU History of the Beatles crossed to TESC Mus-307 "music of a specific performer". Sorry Cookderosa, to say this isn't a quirky system is wrong. But TayTay, you are on the right track. Just keep suggesting UL possibilities and they'll say yes eventually. The advisor you want to talk to is Todd Siben, he knows all the quirks.

sanantone Wrote:What Johnny Heck said is true, but I still believe that TESC is more content driven. The course names don't have to be an exact match. Most often, there is no exact match when it comes to course titles other than the standard courses offered by all colleges. More than likely, HIS-417 United States 1919-1960 was seen to be covering much of the same ground as U.S. 1929-1948 (HIS-217) making its content similar to what TESC considers a LL course. TESC will and has put completely different names on transfer courses. For example, I transferred in a LL DAAC course in Intro to Alcohol/Drug Addictions. I think it was first coded as an UL SOS course in Substance Abuse and then the name was changed to an UL SOS course for Drugs in Society. I also transferred a course called World Culture and the Arts and TESC labeled it as Humanities I. Fundamentals of Music was labeled Basic Sight and Ear Training or something like that. When TESC can't match content, it'll give a generic XXX-199, XXX-299, XXX-399 etc. They labeled almost all of my master's courses as AOJ-499. I really don't know why they did that because none of the courses have anything to do with criminal justice in content or title. Two were labeled HLS-499 which makes more sense. The others should be POS for political science or something else.

I'm assuming that the content of those courses is too general and broad. UL history courses tend to be more focused. Although, there is an UL course in the History of the 20th Century in the PLA database.

sanantone Wrote:I found something! Either TESC overlooked this course in the PLA database or it determined that the contents of the courses did not match.

TESC course
Modern America (HIS-417) 3.00 s.h.**
the political, social, cultural and economic development of the American people in the modern period. Studies the United States in its foreign relations.

Idaho course for Rise of Modern America
Industrial and economic development, political reform, Populism, the Progressive Era, and World War I

You might be able to argue this one. The only major difference is that the Idaho course does not focus on foreign relations.
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Lyanne Wrote:Hey, Westerner, how was World Conflicts? I found it so confusing to study for, no real direction...

Westerner Wrote:Great news, Taylor!


Y'know, it wasn't too bad Sure, I was kinda lost at first because there are three books to read and no flashcards :eek: But with the SEF, practice tests and fact sheet, it made the studying easier I did learn a lot and am glad I took it

Lyanne Wrote:Great! I found that the International Relations book is a keeper. I refer to it for my War and American Society class. I'm trying to sell the other two, they are dry as dust.