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RE: ENEB New Master Thread - huiwh1998 - 09-26-2025
I was wondering if any master's accept eneb/ ui1's graduate certificate "upgrading" to a full master's. Like 30-50% credits accepted, and not too expensive (around $5000 ish). This will be way easier than upgrading a Spanish propio to an Italian Livello 1.
ENEB New Master Thread - NotJoeBiden - 09-27-2025
(09-26-2025, 07:15 PM)huiwh1998 Wrote: I was wondering if any master's accept eneb/ ui1's graduate certificate "upgrading" to a full master's. Like 30-50% credits accepted, and not too expensive (around $5000 ish). This will be way easier than upgrading a Spanish propio to an Italian Livello 1.
The Wiki talks about this:
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB
RE: ENEB New Master Thread - huiwh1998 - 09-27-2025
(09-27-2025, 11:56 AM)NotJoeBiden Wrote:(09-26-2025, 07:15 PM)huiwh1998 Wrote: I was wondering if any master's accept eneb/ ui1's graduate certificate "upgrading" to a full master's. Like 30-50% credits accepted, and not too expensive (around $5000 ish). This will be way easier than upgrading a Spanish propio to an Italian Livello 1.
The Wiki talks about this:
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB
I'm aware of the info out there, but it seems like there isn't a well-established, tested pathway for upgrading the ENEB/UI1 grad cert to a full master's with significant credit transfer (like 30-50%). Most folks appear to be taking different routes, and I’m wondering if anyone’s found a reliable, affordable option that’s actually worked for this specific scenario.
RE: ENEB New Master Thread - PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 - 09-27-2025
Hi all, apologies for the previous long post, the thread seems to be eating the entry. Anyways, here's something to think about
We have prior evidence that a Livello 1 has been evaluated as a US Master's degree:
1. In an older thread, it shows WES evaluating the 1 Livello Italian Master's Degree as equivalent to a US Master's degree.
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Guaranteed-Master-s-Degree-Evaluation-from-Italy-Self-Paced-Online-Courses
2. A Canadian University's website confirms they consider a 1 Livello or 2 Livello (Specialization Master's) as well as the full Magistrale, all as equivalent to a Canadian Masters.
https://www.sgs.utoronto.ca/future-students/admission-application-requirements/international-credentials-equivalencies/
If one has 60 ECTS from a Postgraduate Diploma or a Level 7 Postgraduate Diploma from any of the following: Pearson BTEC/OTHM/ATHE/LRN/NCC Education/Qualfi, these 60 ECTS enable advanced entry into a UK MBA to complete the remaining 60 ECTS.
Does a 1 Livello work in this way? Who knows, some AI sources say that a 1 Livello is equivalent to a UK Postgraduate Diploma.
If you want a guaranteed route to a full UK MBA, there's always the Level 7 Postgraduate Diploma that I listed above, as it guarantees advanced entry to select UK MBA programmes and it is super affordable.
For those who are less familiar, postgraduate (UK) = Graduate School level (US)
RE: ENEB New Master Thread - nykorn - 09-27-2025
ENEB got my money yet again. There is currently a "Black" sale on the agile methodology. I decided to jump on it instead of waiting for a Black Friday sale because ENEB somehow messed up the end date of one of my courses, the portal claims I have less than 1 year to finish one of the degrees yet 2 years to finish the other one bought at the same time.
They have a 2 month interest free installment plan, which does work.
1 degree - $299
any 2 degrees - $359
any 3 degrees - $399
If you live in a state that has sales tax, say you live in Oregon and it apparently doesn't check your actual location.
The agile methodology purchasing system is completely different than last time I did it. They've upgraded it so that after paying, you are immediately Emailed a link to put in your student number (which didn't used to exist), you choose your degrees from a drop-down menu so the 3 degree option works for ANY 3 degrees, not just the "Global Diploma", and you choose your own exam window out of 3 available options. A human probably then checks all this, as I didn't get any confirmation Email after doing that.
The campus website itself has also been improved, it's broken down the info in the PDFs as well as the questions on the quizzes into small chunks, and it saves your reading progress. It no longer tells you the answers when you get something wrong on a quiz. There are more videos and they claim they are going to end up doing live classroom sessions in a few months. It is also supposedly now accessible on a smartphone.
The translations within the PDFs however have not been improved. There are still the glaring, and very confusing, errors where stuff like instead of saying "cash" they wrote "box".
I set ENEB up for my mom and myself. My mom, who has some work experience in running businesses but no formal education in business subjects, scored 40% on the first MBA quiz without having read any of the material. That was encouraging enough to have her actually keep going and actually start reading all the course material (after several months of ignoring it).
By the way, the job I got based on having an ENEB degree acting as a Business subject Masters? I worked there almost a full year before other circumstances made me need to leave.
RE: ENEB New Master Thread - MedicOne - 09-27-2025
(09-27-2025, 11:02 PM)nykorn Wrote: ENEB got my money yet again. There is currently a "Black" sale on the agile methodology. I decided to jump on it instead of waiting for a Black Friday sale because ENEB somehow messed up the end date of one of my courses, the portal claims I have less than 1 year to finish one of the degrees yet 2 years to finish the other one bought at the same time.
They have a 2 month interest free installment plan, which does work.
1 degree - $299
any 2 degrees - $359
any 3 degrees - $399
If you live in a state that has sales tax, say you live in Oregon and it apparently doesn't check your actual location.
The agile methodology purchasing system is completely different than last time I did it. They've upgraded it so that after paying, you are immediately Emailed a link to put in your student number (which didn't used to exist), you choose your degrees from a drop-down menu so the 3 degree option works for ANY 3 degrees, not just the "Global Diploma", and you choose your own exam window out of 3 available options. A human probably then checks all this, as I didn't get any confirmation Email after doing that.
The campus website itself has also been improved, it's broken down the info in the PDFs as well as the questions on the quizzes into small chunks, and it saves your reading progress. It no longer tells you the answers when you get something wrong on a quiz. There are more videos and they claim they are going to end up doing live classroom sessions in a few months. It is also supposedly now accessible on a smartphone.
The translations within the PDFs however have not been improved. There are still the glaring, and very confusing, errors where stuff like instead of saying "cash" they wrote "box".
I set ENEB up for my mom and myself. My mom, who has some work experience in running businesses but no formal education in business subjects, scored 40% on the first MBA quiz without having read any of the material. That was encouraging enough to have her actually keep going and actually start reading all the course material (after several months of ignoring it).
Are you saying you didn't even have to do the courses to do the agile exam?
RE: ENEB New Master Thread - nykorn - 09-27-2025
(09-27-2025, 11:07 PM)MedicOne Wrote: Are you saying you didn't even have to do the courses to do the agile exam?
I had already paid & registered for the degrees for me and my mom previously. The agile exam page states you are "switching" to the agile method. I haven't ever tried to pay for the agile method while not already registered in a degree.
I forgot to clarify in my previous post, that ENEB's mistake on the end date of one of my degrees means that my degree is supposed to end next month, which just isn't enough time for me to do all the reading and homework assignments considering I'm finishing up my WGU Master's right now. So I decided to just go the exam route.
RE: ENEB New Master Thread - MedicOne - 09-28-2025
Ok so that agile method is basically just reading the guides and taking a test instead of doing any assignment?
RE: ENEB New Master Thread - irvineboy - 09-28-2025
(09-25-2025, 08:44 PM)PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 Wrote: How many fully accredited MBA programmes are willing to accept most of the work done at ENEB?
If I were not already working on a fully accredited MBA, I would definitely convert my ENEB coursework via the Unimarconi transfer.
No one knows until this Marconi deal is done or someone completed but for now I don't see any posts or documentation of this, just hypotheticals....
Maybe? Has anyone seen ENEB Gard evals from IEE or ECE get used?
UMPI MAOL? has anyone got them to accept at the 6 credit max?
RE: ENEB New Master Thread - PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 - 09-28-2025
(09-28-2025, 12:56 AM)irvineboy Wrote:(09-25-2025, 08:44 PM)PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 Wrote: How many fully accredited MBA programmes are willing to accept most of the work done at ENEB?
If I were not already working on a fully accredited MBA, I would definitely convert my ENEB coursework via the Unimarconi transfer.
No one knows until this Marconi deal is done or someone completed but for now I don't see any posts or documentation of this, just hypotheticals....
Maybe? Has anyone seen ENEB Gard evals from IEE or ECE get used?
UMPI MAOL? has anyone got them to accept at the 6 credit max?
Would love to hear about actual transfers yes, thanks
Meanwhile,
1. We have seen a 1 Livello get evaluated by WES as a US Master's degree
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Guaranteed-Master-s-Degree-Evaluation-from-Italy-Self-Paced-Online-Courses
2. University of Toronto accepts the 1 Livello, 2 Livello, and Magistrale, all as equivalent to a Canadian Master's.
https://www.sgs.utoronto.ca/future-students/admission-application-requirements/international-credentials-equivalencies/
(1 Livello and 2 Livello are called Laurea Specialistica)
3. On this thread, we saw evidence that a 2 Livello got a WES Evaluation as a Canadian Master's (noting this for consistency's sake with the University of Toronto).
4. It would be great to hear about credit transfer success for ENEB students using IEE evaluations in the US or Canada, etc.
I think it really boils down to, is this going to help or not for the time and investment?
Wouldn't that depend on what a person is trying to do?
- Looking to do a doctorate - It's pretty logical that a 1 Livello is not supposed to get us there.
- Not looking to do a doctorate - It's pretty logical that one can list their 1 Livello as an Official, accredited MBA/Master's and be proud of it.
Therefore, is it a fair statement to say that it's not "worth it" to upgrade a propio into a 1 Livello because it isn't an upgrade to a 2 Livello?
Is it realistic to expect that a propio can be upgraded to a 2 Livello in the first place when it doesn't appear to be that way?
There's a probability that a 1 Livello might get evaluated as being less than a US Master's degree.
However, let's clarify a huge difference here that's important.
In the US, the word diploma gets used for the high school diploma, and it's rarely seen again thereafter. It is very understandable that it may not sound like it's important. There is a HUGE difference between the two outside of the US. For example, there's a pretty wide gap between a certificate and a diploma.
In the UK, graduate level is called "postgraduate". Undergraduate level is called "graduate" level.
US: Graduate and Undergraduate
UK: Postgraduate and Graduate
- A Postgraduate (US Graduate) Certificate consists of 3 courses
- A Postgraduate (US Graduate) Diploma consists of 6 to 8 courses
- At the very least, even if it is evaluated below a Master's degree, a US Graduate Diploma is 2x the weight of a US Graduate Certificate!
For the 9 courses taken at ENEB, there's no credit that is actually transferring over.
Have to re-do ALL 9 courses, effectively because there's a comprehensive Exam for those 9 subjects. An exam that is administered by Unimarconi. On top of that, have to do a thesis.
It is very evident that no credits are transferring. Unimarconi is willing to give 60 ECTS if one can pass the Unimarconi exam for the 9 previous modules, and write a thesis, and meet the standards as administered by Unimarconi.
If you are expecting a transfer of 60 credits, and another 60 credits to get a 2 Livello degree, please explain what 1 Livello degree and 2 Livello degree consist of the same 9 modules?
60 ECTS from completing a 1 Livello does not mean one becomes eligible for admission to a 2 Livello
Livello 1 degrees do not make way for a Livello 2
Why? Because Livello 2 degrees are for people who already have a Bachelor's and a full Master's. Folks qualified to pursue a doctorate degree, but choose to add an area of specialization at the 2nd Master's level without going the doctorate route.
If being able to progress to a doctorate is a serious concern, should we not look for other options, instead of poo poo'ing on the 1 Livello?
I get that people put in a lot of time and effort into multiple ENEB degrees, and maybe it's a bit of a shock that at $2350 and extra work, it still might not get evaluated as high as one wishes.
Even though at that stage, US NACES evaluation would only matter if the intention was further styudy towards a DBA or PhD.
I find it hard to believe that every single ENEB graduate here wants to get a doctorate
Despite what the wiki says, there are differences between a propio and a 1 Livello.
Is it fair to say that an unofficial degree is the same as an official degree?
I would take it or leave it and call it a day.