(04-17-2025, 03:30 PM)Hotdogman1 Wrote: Well, OP doesn't have any RA credits.

And yes, there are hoops (and new ones). While CUNY does accept Saylor, Google Coursera certs, CLEP, DSST, and others, it doesn't specify credits from Sophia. Another hoop is price: the wiki has 18 credits required for the BS business and 21 credits for the IS. Even if you could transfer the ideal max, 15 CUNY residency credits * $350 non resident online cost per credit hour = $5,250.

Additionally, there is a new "College Option" section on top of the required general education. The BS Information Science (new program name) catalog page isn't updated yet, but College Option was required on every BS page I looked into. "The number of College Option credits is 6 to 12, depending on whether a student transferred into the college and, if so, how many credits he or she had at the time of transfer." For student's without a bachelor's or an associates, the number is 12 credits and I don't think any could be satisfied with ACE/exam credits. The updated program itself does look awesome but you could invest that ~10k on a Data analytics/Cybersecurity masters instead.

Edit: It's cheaper to complete a UMPI bachelor's and get a second cuny bachelors than to get a CUNY bachelor's with no degree. The College Option requirement gets dropped if you already have a bachelor's.
UMPI: $1,700 * 2 = $3,400
Cuny College Option $350 * 12 = $4,200

(04-20-2025, 09:51 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Thread 1: In a nutshell, CLEP/MS is a very good option for those starting out, say if you're still in high school or a college freshman. Once you get past a certain threshold in age, it may be better to use Sophia.org to quickly get credits so you can move on faster. It depends on your energy, money, time constraints.

I recommend a Bachelors & Masters combo that's slightly more expensive but that will be easier/faster to complete, the UMPI option would be cheaper, easier, faster and get you there in the end. I think that gets the name out and be further recognized.  You can add an AALS with a different concentration while at UMPI as well for free...

Now to get you started: 1) Invest in a second monitor for easier multi-tasking and answer search.
2) Continue with Sophia.org and use 1 monitor for quiz/exams, 1 monitor for looking at pdf/texts.
3) Complete as many Sophia.org courses as you can that don't duplicate, up to 20-25+ courses.

Thread 2: UMPI AALS> BBA PM/IS or BLS MIS/PM> MAOL... It's not a CS/IT major, but there are concentrations and/or minors in MIS, PM.  For OP and those who really just want some credits in a certain subject area, a certificate or a minor would be a great option.  MAOL is not MBA, but deals with a subset of Business Administration.

Get this, you're stuck at the point of looking at the BSIT with concentrations of your choice, such as Cybersecurity, Info Tech, etc.  My trifecta #1 has always been cost, ease, speed to finish, trifecta #2 a balanced mix/match of certs, degree, experience, trifecta #3 A/B/M combo, ROI/Value, customize/personalize your learning suited to you.  Associates/Bachelors are great starting points, but a Masters trumps the undergrad studies every day of the week.

My suggestion is to do the UMPI AALS, BBA/BLS, MAOL, this will get you the first Masters.  You can then do the MSIT at UoPeople or PUG/WGU.  Not the WGU MSITM as that's more of a management degree than an IT degree.  If you add the costs together, you'll probably be able to finish that AALS, BBA/BLS, MAOL cheaper than a TESU BSIT degree alone.  You'll end up with the same Masters anyways, but my method gives you a MAOL at the end of the day!

Thread 3: Stop, Drop, and Roll.  Stop for a moment, Drop what you're doing, Roll along with the following...  You need to be honest with yourself and what your desire is for learning.  What is it you're looking at in the future, are you wanting to change professions, what careers or subjects interests you most?   It's alright to be temporarily stuck on decisions, but don't stall...

Frankly, you need to throw out all your thoughts and think deeply about now, 5 years later, 10 years, retirement, etc.  Do you have the "life plan" and a "backup"?  Things in life doesn't always go as planned, being prepared is great, but sometimes you need a backup plan and not just "wing it".  You don't really need to "stick to the plans" as changes/life happens... keep updating it...

You may want to follow through with my current and previous suggestion of multi-tasking with a second monitor and starting with Sophia.org and slowly gain usable credits towards a degree and more momentum forward.  Start, if you haven't decided, accumulate credit towards that goal, decide when you get closer to that degree.  TESU/UMPI are your best options right now, they take the same 90 credits towards their degrees... it boils down to the final 30 credits and how you want to finish it, so why not start?

I copied the bulk of the info on my last post in thread #3.  You have all your electives completed for any degree you want, you need to get your general education and major complete.  But the UMPI BLS allows 60 electives vs 30 at TESU, get the BLS faster and work on the MSIT instead.  You need to calculate your energy, cost, time, you need to get these all completed, which route is of least resistance? UMPI BLS & MAOL > Masters at ABC for XYZ...You get a double Masters combo at the end of the day.

• TESU Full-Time Flat-Rate Tuition of $4,428 for out of state students. This is already higher than your estimated $4,400. https://www.tesu.edu/tuition-financial-aid/tuition-fees/undergraduate.ph
  
• ASU 4 courses * $425 = $1,700
  
• TESU $350 in audit/application fees.
  
• Books?
  

• ASU 12 credit hours = $1,700 = 8 week UMPI session = I did 36 credits. 
  
• My session was 53 days / 12 courses = Average 4.42 days to complete each course. The norm seems to be two sessions so that means it took 8-9 days to complete each course. 
  
• ASU 12 + TESU 15 = 27 credits = $6,478
  
• UMPI residency = 30 credits = $1,700-3,400
  

• Nacos, B. L. (2016). Terrorism and counterterrorism (5th ed.). New York, NY: Routledge.
  

• If you are trying to transfer in 114, the barrier is the 24 RA credits.
  
• However, if you are trying to avoid the waiver and take 15 courses at TESU, you only need 15 RA transfer credits.