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2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - Elinor - 06-08-2011

I don't know if this is even remotely possible, but I figured someone on here did.

I was playing around with my unofficial evaluation "What if I changed my program of study." I was curious if my FEMA credits could be applied substantially towards a different degree, and so I clicked the "AAS in Environmental, Safety & Security Technologies." Turns out, I can get that without any more work. However, I am just a course away from my history degree. Is there any way I can pay an extra graduation fee and get both? Not that I need the AAS or anything, it just sounded kind of cool if I could get 2 degrees for the work of one. Smile Now that I've typed it all out, it sounds even more far-fetched, but it's worth asking anyway.


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - cookderosa - 06-08-2011

Elinor Wrote:I don't know if this is even remotely possible, but I figured someone on here did.

I was playing around with my unofficial evaluation "What if I changed my program of study." I was curious if my FEMA credits could be applied substantially towards a different degree, and so I clicked the "AAS in Environmental, Safety & Security Technologies." Turns out, I can get that without any more work. However, I am just a course away from my history degree. Is there any way I can pay an extra graduation fee and get both? Not that I need the AAS or anything, it just sounded kind of cool if I could get 2 degrees for the work of one. Smile Now that I've typed it all out, it sounds even more far-fetched, but it's worth asking anyway.


Yes, an associate on the way to a bachelor's is pretty normal- I did this too. It will cost an additional graduation fee and then you have to wait one quarter until you can get your bachelor's degree. So, if your AAS is issued in for October graduation, your BA is then issued for February graduation.


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - bricabrac - 06-08-2011

Elinor,

I also did the same last year but at the time you could not receive both at the same time. That restriction has now been lifted for Associate/Bachelors.
"Students who desire both a Thomas Edison State College associate degree and a Thomas Edison State College baccalaureate degree may have both degrees awarded together in the same graduation cycle. "

You have two options:
You can wait to complete the final history course and apply for both degrees in the same grad cycle, just submit two separate forms. Or like Cook said, you can apply for the next cycle.

(1) AAS - apply on or before July 1 for September graduation
(2) BA - apply on or before Oct 1 for December graduation


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - Elinor - 06-08-2011

bricabrac Wrote:"Students who desire both a Thomas Edison State College associate degree and a Thomas Edison State College baccalaureate degree may have both degrees awarded together in the same graduation cycle. "
...
You can wait to complete the final history course and apply for both degrees in the same grad cycle, just submit two separate forms.

Oh! That is SO cool! I'm gonna do it! :hurray: (though it's slightly laughable, considering I remember very little about the FEMAs I took...) Big Grin

Thanks, y'all!


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - dcan - 06-08-2011

Elinor Wrote:I was playing around with my unofficial evaluation "What if I changed my program of study." I was curious if my FEMA credits could be applied substantially towards a different degree, and so I clicked the "AAS in Environmental, Safety & Security Technologies." Turns out, I can get that without any more work.

I have not yet enrolled in TESC so I can't play with their ninja wizard software everyone talks about. :nopity:

Can you lay out the requirements for the degree as you will meet them? The TESC website simply says "area of study" with no details. Did you fill that up completely with FEMAs?

I'm interested in this for myself and my wife and possibly my step-son as well. My wife and I just finished in-person CERT training and are looking at state EM certification as well and this would be another great addition. Is it possible for you to toss out a real quick degree plan? We would be eternally grateful!


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - ryoder - 06-09-2011

Dcan no need to enroll just pay the 75 dollar application fee and get a degree eval and you will be able to run your own evals on the site.


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - Elinor - 06-09-2011

dcan Wrote:I have not yet enrolled in TESC so I can't play with their ninja wizard software everyone talks about. :nopity:

Can you lay out the requirements for the degree as you will meet them? The TESC website simply says "area of study" with no details. Did you fill that up completely with FEMAs?

I'm interested in this for myself and my wife and possibly my step-son as well. My wife and I just finished in-person CERT training and are looking at state EM certification as well and this would be another great addition. Is it possible for you to toss out a real quick degree plan? We would be eternally grateful!

Here's what it automatically does with the credits I've earned when I choose the AAS in Environmental, Safety & Security Technologies:

Quote:Program Status: In Progress
Current.......... Anticipated(*).......
Required Earned Remaining Additional Remaining
Institutional Credits: 114.00 0.00 6.00 0.00
Institutional GPA....: Met
Combined Credits: 60.00 114.00 0.00 6.00 0.00
Combined GPA....: 2.000 Not Met

(*) Anticipates completion of in-progress and registered courses
================================================================================
Statuses: W=Waived, C=Complete, I=In progress, N=Not started
P=Pending completion of unfinished activity
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C) 1: General Education (21 SH)
Credits: 21
Complete all 5 subrequirements:
C) A: English Composition
> Complete one full year of English Composition with a grade

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> of C or better.
Credits: 6
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
C) Group 1
Credits: 6

ENC-101 English Composition I...... 01/01/10 CR 3 *NE
ENC-102 English Composition II..... 01/01/10 CR 3 *NE

C) B: Humanities
> Complete 3 semester hours of humanities.
REL-405 Intro. to World Religions.. 01/07/11 CR 3 *NE

C) C: Social Science
> Complete 3 semester hours of social science.
HIS-386 Rise and Fall of Soviet Uni 02/25/11 CR 3 *NE

C) D: College Mathematics
> Complete 3 semester hours of college mathematics.
MAT-103 General Math II............ 02/01/10 CR 3 *NE

C) E: General Educ. Elect.
> Complete 6 semester hours from humanities, social science
> or natural science.
Credits: 6
HIS-222 Contemp. W. Eurp.: 1946-199 02/04/11 CR 3 *NE
HIS-351 A History of Vietnam War... 01/28/11 CR 3 *NE
================================================================================
C) 2: Career Track: Envir, Safety & Sec Tech (21)
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
> Courses from COP COS CAP CIS derived from occupational
> training are applicable.
Credits: 21
ENS-201 Env. & Hum.: Race Save Plan 03/23/11 CR 3 *NE
EDM-241 Mitigation for Homeowners.. 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-140 Introduction to Mitigation. 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-155 Orien. Haz Mat for Med. Prs 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-172 Radiological Emergency Resp 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-122 Role/Volunteer Agen in Em.M 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-242 Anticip Hazardous Weather & 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-210 Developing & Managing Volun 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-209 Effective Communications... 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-208 Decision Making & Problem S 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-207 Leadership and Influence... 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-224 Emergency Planning......... 04/11/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-107 Principles of Emer Manageme 04/04/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-126 State Disaster Management.. 04/04/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-203 Exercise Design............ 04/02/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-120 Orien.To Comm.Dis. Exercize 04/08/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-193 Livestock in Disasters..... 04/08/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-223 Special Events Contingency 04/07/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-192 Animals in Disaster-B Com P 04/05/11 CR 1 *NE
================================================================================
C) 3: Free Electives (18 SH)
> Complete 18 semester hours in any area.
Credits: 18
HIS-252 Civil War and Reconstructio 01/17/11 CR 3 *NE
COS-101 Introduction to Computers.. 11/18/10 CR 3 *NE

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AST-101 Introductory Astronomy..... 09/10/10 CR 3 *NE
ART-166 History of Western Art I... 05/19/10 CR 3 *NE
HIS-399 Spec. Stud. in Slected Topi 04/01/11 CR 3 *NE
HIS-309 Intro. to Modern Middle Eas 03/14/11 CR 3 *NE
================================================================================
OTHER COURSES: Registered Earned
Credits Credits
HIS-356............. 2011MAY 6.00 ( 6.00) *IP
War and American Society
LIT-291............. 01/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
Analysis & Interpre Literature
LIT-292............. 01/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE

Analysis and Inter of Lit II
SOC-101............. 11/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
Introduction to Sociology
SOS-101............. 09/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
Social Sciences and History I
SOS-102............. 09/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
Social Sciences and History II
HIS-114............. 08/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
American History II
HIS-113............. 08/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
American History I
HIS-102............. 08/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
Western Civilization II
HIS-101............. 07/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
Western Civilization I
HUM-101............. 05/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
Intro Hum I: Philos. Thought
HUM-102............. 05/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
Intro Hum Ii: Poet, Drama, Nar
LIT-205............. 04/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
American Literature I
LIT-206............. 04/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
American Literature II
LIT-208............. 03/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
English Literature I
LIT-209............. 03/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
English Literature II
MAT-102............. 02/01/10 CR 3.00 3.00 *NE
General Math I
EDM-101............. 03/10/11 CR 1.00 1.00 *NE
Emer.Prog.Mgr.Orient.To Posit.
EDM-399............. 03/10/11 CR 1.00 1.00 *NE
Spec. Stud. in Selected Topics
EDM-154............. 04/08/11 CR 1.00 1.00 *NE
Hazardous Materials:a Cit.Orie
EDM-103............. 03/11/11 CR 1.00 1.00 *NE
A Citizen's Guide to Dis.Asst
EDM-190............. 03/11/11 CR 1.00 1.00 *NE
Build.For Earthqua.Of Tomorrow
EDM-191............. 03/11/11 CR 1.00 1.00 *NE
Animals in Disaster-A
(Credits in parentheses are anticipated earned)
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NOTES

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*IP In Progress
*NE Non-course Equivalency
*U Used! - has already been used elsewhere

Hope that helps!


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - dcan - 06-09-2011

That is awesome! Thank you!!


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - bricabrac - 06-10-2011

dcan Wrote:Can you lay out the requirements for the degree as you will meet them? The TESC website simply says "area of study" with no details. Did you fill that up completely with FEMAs?

Dcan,

I confirmed yesterday, out of the courses I have business law and criminal justice will also fit in the area of study.

*my fema courses are from 10/09, some may no longer be available

Career Track: Envir, Safety & Sec Tech (21)
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
> Courses from COP COS CAP CIS derived from occupational
> training are applicable.
Semester Hours Completed: 21.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. LAW-201... Business Law............. 3.00 CR LAW-201 *NEW *NE
1.. AOJ-102... Intro. to Criminal Justic 3.00 CR AOJ-102 *NE
1.. EDM-200... Disaster Basics.......... 1.00 CR EDM-200 *NE
1.. EDM-122... Role/Volunteer Agen in Em 1.00 CR EDM-122 *NE
1.. EDM-399... Spec. Stud. in Selected T 1.00 CR EDM-399 *NE
1.. EDM-241... Mitigation for Homeowners 1.00 CR EDM-241 *NE
1.. EDM-192... Animals in Disaster-B Com 1.00 CR EDM-192 *NE
1.. EDM-191... Animals in Disaster-A.... 1.00 CR EDM-191 *NE
1.. EDM-190... Build.For Earthqua.Of Tom 1.00 CR EDM-190 *NE
1.. EDM-103... A Citizen's Guide to Dis. 1.00 CR EDM-103 *NE
1.. EDM-154... Hazardous Materials:a Cit 1.00 CR EDM-154 *NE
1.. EDM-140... Introduction to Mitigatio 1.00 CR EDM-140 *NE
1.. EDM-155... Orien. Haz Mat for Med. P 1.00 CR EDM-155 *NE
1.. EDM-210... Developing & Managing Vol 1.00 CR EDM-210 *NE
1.. EDM-224... Emergency Planning....... 1.00 CR EDM-224 *NE
1.. EDM-209... Effective Communications. 1.00 CR EDM-209 *NE
1.. EDM-208... Decision Making & Problem 1.00 CR EDM-208 *NE


2 degrees from TESC using the same credits? - HorseManiac - 06-11-2011

cookderosa Wrote:Yes, an associate on the way to a bachelor's is pretty normal- I did this too. It will cost an additional graduation fee and then you have to wait one quarter until you can get your bachelor's degree. So, if your AAS is issued in for October graduation, your BA is then issued for February graduation.

Is the Associates and Bachelors allowed to be in the same area? Like if I wanted to get an ASBA and a BSBA, would I be allowed or do they have to be in different areas?

Thanks.