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Math after calculus? - cookderosa - 04-02-2012
We use ALEKS for algebra through pre-cal and stats, Straighterline for Calc 1 and 2.... But what else is there? Where can someone earn testing/indy/online math credits? What about calc 3 or calc-based physics?
My 11th grader is going to be tapped out of ALEKS credit by July, and I'm ready to get him in TESC for his associates. Career-wise he will likely need calculus, so I'm considering TESC's associates in Math instead of the AA so he doesn't need as many humanities and social sciences; but I'm not sure where I can pull this credit without sourcing through 5 places, and I REALLY don't want to do that. I'd rather find only 1-2 schools, even if that means not using SL. Ideas?
Oh, I forgot to say, TESC seems to offer everything in-house, however, they are getting sooooo expensive that I'd consider them a last resort.
Math after calculus? - Yenisei - 04-03-2012
For Calculus III, look at LSU IS. or Ohio U (where it will be Calculus IV), plus also UWyoming IS. Straighterline has calculus-based physics.
EDIT: Calc-based physics is hard to find, so I'd recommend going with SL. If you want to stick with just one school for math, look at LSU, but LSU may be a step up if you are used to the SL format for math.
Math after calculus? - cookderosa - 04-03-2012
Yenisei Wrote:For Calculus III, look at LSU IS. or Ohio U (where it will be Calculus IV), plus also UWyoming IS. Straighterline has calculus-based physics.
EDIT: Calc-based physics is hard to find, so I'd recommend going with SL. If you want to stick with just one school for math, look at LSU, but LSU may be a step up if you are used to the SL format for math.
I missed that SL physics is calc based, I think because it didn't have a pre-req, I just assumed it was algebra. He's never done SL for math, only ALEKS. If we did calc, I'd rather start where he could complete a series (even if he doesn't).
I'm having second thoughts. I looked at both CC options for AS Math. At both schools, they use 100/200 level maths, but TESC wants 300 level in the associate degree. Am I reading that right? When I compared the course list requirements, the section "C" 9 credit requirement is full of upper level. I'm not sure if I want him doing that, because I'd actually like him to do his ul maths on campus when he enrolls in his BS. Not sure- still mulling it over.
Have you looked at that degree? What do you think? We are only looking at associates, narrowing it down between an AA general or the AS math
Thomas Edison State College: Mathematics
I'd love to hear your thoughts. He's looking at BS mechanical engineering, but not firm enough for me to do a hard-core perfect transfer plan. I want to keep it vanilla in the event that he changes his mind next year.
Math after calculus? - Yenisei - 04-03-2012
LSU has the best math offerings, but it sounds like you want him to take anything beyond Calculus in a B&M environment. In that case, look at UWyoming for Calculus I-III, unless he feels confident enough to test out, in which case I'd recommend the UExcel Calculus exam, then Ohio U's Calculus III and IV. I'm pretty sure that Multivariable Calculus, Linear Algebra and Diff Eq are considered UL at TESC. For engineering, he will probably need the entire Calculus sequence, plus LA and Diff Eq, and maybe Probability, which is a 300 level course at LSU, BTW.
Math after calculus? - cookderosa - 04-03-2012
Yenisei Wrote:LSU has the best math offerings, but it sounds like you want him to take anything beyond Calculus in a B&M environment. In that case, look at UWyoming for Calculus I-III, unless he feels confident enough to test out, in which case I'd recommend the UExcel Calculus exam, then Ohio U's Calculus III and IV. I'm pretty sure that Multivariable Calculus, Linear Algebra and Diff Eq are considered UL at TESC. For engineering, he will probably need the entire Calculus sequence, plus LA and Diff Eq, and maybe Probability, which is a 300 level course at LSU, BTW.
Ok thanks, those are good suggestions. I think I'll check out UWyoming, I've not looked at them before. I'm still sinking back to SL for calc 1 and 2, but they won't transfer unless I get those wrapped into a degree. Thanks, and if you find anything new keep me in mind. I've got 3 more sons behind this one lol.
Math after calculus? - ryoder - 04-03-2012
All this talk of upper level math is bringing back horrible memories!
Math after calculus? - NAP - 04-03-2012
For Calculus I-III in particular, here is a thread with several links to check:
http://www.degreeforum.net/general-education-testing-discussion/14289-ohio-university-credit-exam-transcript.html#post108093
Math after calculus? - Carnation - 04-04-2012
An independent study but non-credit way of learning the material is The Saylor Foundation.
Check with your local university to see if they would let your son test out of the classes for credit.
Some universities allow students to take the final exam to earn credit without having to sit through the class.
Also, according to saylor.org's FAQ they have some sort of an arrangement with Excelsior to use saylor materials for classes at Excelsior. I have not researched this but it might be worth looking into.
Here are some other free online learning links:
Linear Algebra- Linear Algebra Toolkit
Math Forum: Internet Math Library - Browse College Topics
S.O.S. Math
CALCULUS.ORG
Don't forget to check your local library to see if they have any Teaching Company DVDs as a learning resource.
Math after calculus? - ryoder - 04-04-2012
Algebra is like 10x easier than calculus. Most high school students take Algebra in 9th grade and never get to calculus even in college.
The normal progression over 4 years of high school starting in 9th grade is:
Algebra I, Algebra II, Geometry, Trigonometry and Statistics
When I was in HS I had already taken Algebra I in 8th grade and then doubled up on math later on taking the following:
Algebra II, Geometry, Trig&Stat + Math Analysis, Calc I
Then in college I took Engineering Calc I again. This amount of math was enough preparation to get me a C in Eng Calc II, an A in Eng Calc III, and a C in Differential Equations (Calc IV).
I dropped out of Linear Algebra because I couldn't understand my teacher.
Math after calculus? - cookderosa - 04-04-2012
Algebra is like 10x easier than calculus. Most high school students take Algebra in 9th grade and never get to calculus even in college.
The normal progression over 4 years of high school starting in 9th grade is:
Algebra I, Algebra II, Geometry, Trigonometry and Statistics
[COLOR="#FF0000"]LOL, first of all, let's just remember this isn't ME taking the course
Here is what he's done and where he is:8th grade: ALEKS beg. algebra
9th grade: ALEKS inter. algebra, ALEKS HS geometry
10th grade: ALEKS business math, ALEKS college algebra
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11th grade: ALEKS pre-cal (he's at 68% assessed now), ALEKS stats (starting next week or two hopefully)
12th grade: *planned* calculus 1 to as far as possible[/COLOR]