dfrecore Wrote:I'm not sure which school would be best, but I can show you (spreadsheet attached) what those credits might look like at TESU if you took a BSBA in CIS. One issue you're going to have is that you will lose a lot of credits because some are too old (computers can't be used in the AOS if they're more than 5 years old), and because the BSBA is pretty restrictive in terms of what courses you can take and how many Free Electives there are. But, with that being said, you're still pretty close to your BSBA with my plan 50cr and $4500 away.

With the Pell Grant, I would think that you might want to enroll somewhere cheaper than TESU to get a couple of necessary courses out of the way there - nothing from the AOS, since you'd need only UL courses there. But you could enroll at Rio Salado again and take classes like Public Speaking, Business Comm, Prin of Marketing, Society and Business (instead of International Management), Accounting I, World Religions or Tech Writing (Info Lit requirement), English Comp I, etc. Use all that money up there to reduce the cost of your degree by $1500, that's great.

Since the money is "free" to you, you could even take Intro to LAN and LAN Planning & Design classes, and then use your own money to go take (and probably easily pass) the UL Network Tech TECEP and the UL Intermediate Networking CSU-Global CBE.

Anyway, here's my spreadsheet to check out. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have.

tman7479 Wrote:I do have on question about TESU. Is it possible to get credit for written communication based on the higher level English classes I took?
The logic is this:
At UW Madison somehow I got them to waive all English 10 level courses. I can't remember if it was the result of AP tests or something else. My transcript from them does say English 101, English 118 requirements satisfied although it doesn't list any credits for those.

I jumped right into an intermediate level English course on Modern Literature. English 207, Modern Lit, required you to read a pretty intense book every 2 weeks and turn in 5 page papers analyzing the novel as well as a 10 page paper for the final project.
Over the course of 14 weeks a student generates around 45 pages of written material which is all judged based on proper grammar, composition, proper use of APA citations, and all of the other concepts from English 101.
It required English 101 as a prerequisite. In other words, if you didn't know how to write well there would be no way to pass any 200 level English courses at UW Madison.

I tried to argue this point with a local community college and they kept on saying it didn't matter that I passed English 207 which required 100 level English as a prerequisite. i honestly feel that if you can pass 200 level English courses you've obviously mastered the learning outcomes for the lower level courses.

If someone passed Calculus for example, you wouldn't question their knowledge of arithmetic. Why are schools so critical of English classes? I'm sure I'm not the first person to bring it up, but I feel like the schools act like these were multiple choice trivia classes on literature and not writing classes, which they were.

Thanks in advance for any insight on this.