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compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - rvm - 10-03-2017 For years, I've been collecting credits. I planned to apply to either TESU or COSC when I hit 90 credits, which should be soon. That WAS my plan until I found a few schools with better rankings & name recognition. I spent some time researching the universities, which I found on alternativecreditproject dot com and saylor dot org -> explore -> partner schools. I've noticed there are some new players (as in the past few years) in the game who will accept up to 90 credits from approved non-traditional sources such as Sophia, Pearson, Saylor, etc. I've narrowed my choices to SUNY Empire, Uni of Maryland - UC, Colorado SU & Granite SU. The main reasons I've narrowed my choice to these 4 are they have Info Tech related degrees, the tuition & fees are somewhat reasonable, they accept up to 90 non-traditional credits for BA/BA degrees (actually, SUNY accepts up to 93 credits) and their courses are 100% online. I would love to hear your opinions or experiences with any of these Universities or a Uni which meets criteria which meets my criteria but which I have not listed. Thank you! RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - Ideas - 10-03-2017 I believe that most or all of SUNY Empire degrees are just general degrees. You can choose an area of study / concentration, and they are pretty flexible, but I think it's not like a major / degree in that subject. So you said you are interested in IT, but I think your degree would be in "Science, Technology, and Mathematics" with a concentration in IT, at best. Did you eliminate Fort Hays State? They are inexpensive as far as 4-year online schools go. Not much more than $200 a credit. I am not sure if they take all ACE credit, but they take 90 in transfer and take ACP. http://www.fhsu.edu/alternative-credit-project/ RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - Silly_Me - 10-03-2017 I was interested in SUNY Empire, too, until I realized they require 45 upper-level credits. Yikes! I haven't really looked at the others. I'm curious to hear what other folks think of these schools. RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - rvm - 10-03-2017 (10-03-2017, 09:02 AM)Ideas Wrote: I believe that most or all of SUNY Empire degrees are just general degrees. You can choose an area of study / concentration, and they are pretty flexible, but I think it's not like a major / degree in that subject. So you said you are interested in IT, but I think your degree would be in "Science, Technology, and Mathematics" with a concentration in IT, at best. I had completely forgotten about Fort Hays. I will definitely check on this. Thank you, Ideas! (10-03-2017, 09:04 AM)Silly_Me Wrote: I was interested in SUNY Empire, too, until I realized they require 45 upper-level credits. Yikes! I haven't really looked at the others. I'm curious to hear what other folks think of these schools. I was a bit concerned about that as well but last night I was checking on TESU's requirements for an undergraduate degree in Information Systems. It requires several courses which I feel are unnecessary not to mention I'm seriously lacking knowledge and abilities in the areas of Accounting, Micro & Macro. The Information Systems discipline is a combo of business & IT courses, so I realize some business courses are necessary. Some of the above mentioned schools don't seem to require Accounting, Micro & Macro or even a programming course. http://www.tesu.edu/business/bsba/Computer-Information-Systems.cfm RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - sanantone - 10-03-2017 I don't know which CSU campus you're referring to, but those other schools are unranked. You might be looking at a ranking no employer references. As far as name recognition, UMUC is mainly known by the military because they have campuses on bases. Everyone who has heard of the school knows that it's the non-traditional, unranked school of the University of Maryland system. I don't know about other parts of the country, but I've never heard anyone mention Empire State College or Granite State University in Texas. I've also never come across anyone in Texas with degrees from those schools. I did have a professor at Angelo State University with an Excelsior degree, and I came across a Texas police captain with an Excelsior degree. However, I wouldn't say that Excelsior is well-known outside of military and nursing. My professor was in the military. RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - Ideas - 10-03-2017 (10-03-2017, 09:20 AM)rvm Wrote: I was a bit concerned about that as well but last night I was checking on TESU's requirements for an undergraduate degree in Information Systems. It requires several courses which I feel are unnecessary not to mention I'm seriously lacking knowledge and abilities in the areas of Accounting, Micro & Macro. The Information Systems discipline is a combo of business & IT courses, so I realize some business courses are necessary. Some of the above mentioned schools don't seem to require Accounting, Micro & Macro or even a programming course. http://www.tesu.edu/business/bsba/Computer-Information-Systems.cfm You could take those courses at SL. You only need about 55-60% on the finals. RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - rvm - 10-03-2017 (10-03-2017, 10:37 AM)sanantone Wrote: I don't know which CSU campus you're referring to, but those other schools are unranked. You might be looking at a ranking no employer references. Good points, Sanantone. When I think of name recognition, I think more about the entire system. While Empire State may not be well-known, the SUNY name is and the SUNY system is highly ranked. While name recognition and rank are not synonymous, I think name recognition of the system carries some weight. Speaking of graduates of Excelsior, my chiropractor has an undergraduate from Excelsior. I feel as confident in his abilities as a chiro as I would with someone with an U/G degree from an Ivy-league Uni. (10-03-2017, 10:55 AM)Ideas Wrote:(10-03-2017, 09:20 AM)rvm Wrote: I was a bit concerned about that as well but last night I was checking on TESU's requirements for an undergraduate degree in Information Systems. It requires several courses which I feel are unnecessary not to mention I'm seriously lacking knowledge and abilities in the areas of Accounting, Micro & Macro. The Information Systems discipline is a combo of business & IT courses, so I realize some business courses are necessary. Some of the above mentioned schools don't seem to require Accounting, Micro & Macro or even a programming course. http://www.tesu.edu/business/bsba/Computer-Information-Systems.cfm Thank you for your suggesstion, Ideas. I'm hoping to bypass the several accounting-finance-type courses required by TESU. If I have to, I'll just have to live with taking them and hope I pass. RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - bjcheung77 - 10-03-2017 These are the best schools for returning adults as another forum member posted a few days ago: Forum thread link: http://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/showthread.php?tid=27778 My question for OP (rvm) is, what are your requirements for the school you're looking into? From looking into your post, you're looking for schools that have IT degrees, good name recognition, affordable tuition, credit transferability, online, and easy/fast to complete. I would usually recommend sticking with the State Colleges or Universities, like the ones on the link above. There are so many schools in the country, non-Ivy League schools are not well recognized unless you're in the same state of the school, some ranking and recognition are biased when individuals or magazines write about them online (but I like to read these). The following reasons are why I chose the Big 3 schools over other colleges/universities. 1) They allow up to 114-117 credits transferred into a Bachelors degree 2) They accept far more non-traditional credits, (COSC accepts FEMA/GRE), ACE/NCCRS/CLEP/DSST, etc 3) The Big 3 have the "IT" degrees you're looking for, they're State Colleges/Universities 4) The total cost is actually very low compared to other schools and because you're taking 1 or 2 courses from 5) The amount of time is significantly shortened as they allow credit for challenge exams If you need any prerequisites or requirements for any Bachelors/Masters Degree program you would want to go for... I would suggest finding the program requirements first and then creating a spreadsheet of possible courses. For your reference and as an example of a spreadsheet I copied and modified from dfrecore... I'm adding my dropbox for the Degree Plan Template Links https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9766o66mkeh1w...xnGPa?dl=0 Lastly, I must "re-post" what I mentioned in the other thread on where to get ACE/NCCRS credits. If you have a ModernStates account, get the CLEP vouchers for free, otherwise... I would recommend using any ACE or NCCRS provider in getting the credits you need. Davar, Saylor, Shmoop, Straighterline and Study.com are the ones I usually recommend. They are probably the cheapest/easiest/fastest of the bunch for ACE/NCCRS credits. RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - dfrecore - 10-03-2017 (10-03-2017, 09:20 AM)rvm Wrote: TESU's degree you're referring to here is a Business Degree, with a concentration in CIS. Not the same thing at all as a degree in IT or something more computer-related Computer Science. RE: compare SUNY Empire, UMUC, Colorado SU & Granite State - rvm - 10-03-2017 (10-03-2017, 12:04 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: These are the best schools for returning adults as another forum member posted a few days ago: (10-03-2017, 01:48 PM)dfrecore Wrote:(10-03-2017, 09:20 AM)rvm Wrote: Thank you Dfrecore. That explains why they are heavy on the business courses. |