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Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - J D - 09-22-2020
Greetings everyone. I'm from Ecuador, and I'll probably be living in the U.S. next year in 2021 (I don't know about the exact month, as our plans have been affected by Covid). I decided it would be a good idea to get a head start. I'm planning on getting a BA in Computer Science from TESU. I'm starting from scratch, all I have is my high school degree and an IELTS certificate (I don't think it counts for credits). I would like to know what options I have for acquiring credits while I'm still living here and if they have an expiration date. I would also like to know about the process of transferring my credits to TESU (and info regarding enrollment and CLEP exams), including any additional fees for foreigners and school specific courses I must take.
Overall, I would like some help with creating a degree plan (the cheaper the better lol) that is suited to my situation. If the plan includes things like testing in a testing site in the U.S. I'll have to leave those for later, obviously. Thank you.
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - rachel83az - 09-22-2020
The first thing to do is to go to Sophia.org and take all of their classes. You can sign up as a foreigner.
Sign up at https://www2.acenet.edu/credit/?fuseaction=transcripts.main and add your Sophia courses as you finish them.
Once you've finished with Sophia, you can finish your degree with InstantCert for the American Government portion and Study.com for the rest. You shouldn't have any general electives left to take after Sophia but, if you do, you can also take advantage of your knowledge of Spanish by taking InstantCert's Spanish I for 3 credits.
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - Learnfordegree - 09-22-2020
(09-22-2020, 05:14 PM)J D Wrote: Greetings everyone. I'm from Ecuador, and I'll probably be living in the U.S. next year in 2021 (I don't know about the exact month, as our plans have been affected by Covid). I decided it would be a good idea to get a head start. I'm planning on getting a BA in Computer Science from TESU. I'm starting from scratch, all I have is my high school degree and an IELTS certificate (I don't think it counts for credits). I would like to know what options I have for acquiring credits while I'm still living here and if they have an expiration date. I would also like to know about the process of transferring my credits to TESU (and info regarding enrollment and CLEP exams), including any additional fees for foreigners and school specific courses I must take.You can also look into ACTFL OPi in Spanish which you can do from home. It’s just a 30 to 45 minutes phone interview type of test. Since you already know Spanish, you might earn 6 UL and 6 LL credits which can go in your Gen Ed Electives. I think it will cost about $140.
Overall, I would like some help with creating a degree plan (the cheaper the better lol) that is suited to my situation. If the plan includes things like testing in a testing site in the U.S. I'll have to leave those for later, obviously. Thank you.
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - dfrecore - 09-23-2020
I agree with S2106: go here and schedule the OPIc exam ($105) and the WPT exam ($105): https://www.languagetesting.com/ltiapi/index/products/ Each one is worth 12cr (6cr UL and 6cr LL). It works out to be $81.75/cr. The OPIc is Oral, and computerized. The WPT is a writing exam. Both are now done at home, and you can schedule them any time.
Then, take American Govt through ICC.
Then, take as much as possible through Sophia - I wouldn't take EVERYTHING as not everything will count. But I would certainly take a lot (18 courses by my calculation).
Last, sign up for Study.com, and do the remainder there. You can even use it to study for the TECEP you'll need to take.
Then, take the TECEP.
I would probably apply and enroll sooner rather than later, to lock in your catalog.
Here's a degree plan, and a list of Sophia courses which will work for the different areas.
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - rachel83az - 09-23-2020
Everything but foundations courses and college readiness courses count at Sophia and Sophia is arguably less expensive than the OPIc exam. The only Sophia courses that are NOT in my CS degree plan are the 1-credit courses. They're only there because I have filled all my electives with Sophia and 1 SDC course. Taking InstantCert's Spanish I would be cheaper and faster for OP than the OPIc.
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - Kab - 09-24-2020
How are converted the OPIc exam and WPT exam to credits? ACE? and which is the process?
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - J D - 09-24-2020
(09-22-2020, 06:43 PM)rachel83az Wrote: The first thing to do is to go to Sophia.org and take all of their classes. You can sign up as a foreigner.
Sign up at https://www2.acenet.edu/credit/?fuseaction=transcripts.main and add your Sophia courses as you finish them.
Once you've finished with Sophia, you can finish your degree with InstantCert for the American Government portion and Study.com for the rest. You shouldn't have any general electives left to take after Sophia but, if you do, you can also take advantage of your knowledge of Spanish by taking InstantCert's Spanish I for 3 credits.
Thank you so much! I'm putting together a study plan using your recommendations plus an Excel 2019 plan I found on another post. It'd be great if you could look over it and tell me what you think in general. I also have some questions. Regarding the ethics part of civic and global learning (gen ed), I'm considering the introduction to ethics course (Sophia) or a business ethics course (Instantcredit or study.com). Do you know if any of these transfer as any of the required courses for ethics at TESU? https://www.tesu.edu/academics/courses/2019-and-after .I also wanted to ask if the Approaches to Studying Religions course (sophia) transfers as PHI-370 or REL-405 (if it even transfers at all lol). Oh, and I see a total of 3 school specific courses/TECEP exams that I must take from TESU. Are these the only ones I need or are there more?
And as you can see, I'm completely missing the last "III Electives" part (21 credits, so probably 7 courses). What options do I have here? Can I get these courses from Study.com? I've heard these last ones are kinda difficult to obtain. Sorry for asking so many questions haha
SL= Straighterline SDC= Study.com Soph= Sophia Inst= instantcredit... just in case
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - J D - 09-24-2020
(09-23-2020, 11:19 AM)dfrecore Wrote: I agree with S2106: go here and schedule the OPIc exam ($105) and the WPT exam ($105): https://www.languagetesting.com/ltiapi/index/products/ Each one is worth 12cr (6cr UL and 6cr LL). It works out to be $81.75/cr. The OPIc is Oral, and computerized. The WPT is a writing exam. Both are now done at home, and you can schedule them any time.
Then, take American Govt through ICC.
Then, take as much as possible through Sophia - I wouldn't take EVERYTHING as not everything will count. But I would certainly take a lot (18 courses by my calculation).
Last, sign up for Study.com, and do the remainder there. You can even use it to study for the TECEP you'll need to take.
Then, take the TECEP.
I would probably apply and enroll sooner rather than later, to lock in your catalog.
Here's a degree plan, and a list of Sophia courses which will work for the different areas.
Wow, thank you so much! I was putting together my own using one that I found on another post, but yours is much more complete and suited for my situation.
I see that you've added all Sophia for the last free electives (for which I need 21c), but the Sophia courses under the free electives category on your word doc only add up to 10c. Do all the other Sophia courses also count for the Tesu III ELECTIVES portion at the end of their requirements for the degree?
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - rachel83az - 09-24-2020
I only just realized I forgot to attach my mostly-Sophia evaluation for CS. I have a SDC course instead of Sophia's public speaking and Information Literacy in my GE electives is another SDC course. But, other than that, everything listed is from Sophia. Now I'm whittling away at my AOS requirements. I'll do InstantCert's government eventually. The blank spots can be filled with SDC and/or SL courses.
RE: Foreigner TESU CS Degree Plan - Tlm - 10-04-2020
(09-24-2020, 02:50 AM)Kab Wrote: How are converted the OPIc exam and WPT exam to credits? ACE? and which is the process?
I did the OPIc, the listening and the reading tests in French and received 18 credits in total. They assigned them to Knowledge and Human Culture and the rest to electives. You will need to take the test at languagetesting.com (Language Testing Institute) and then go to ACE and have the added AND they need a transcript. The ACE give you the credit and the transcript tells them what language it was in.
The OPIc was a bit of a shocker. The advanced questions were very intense. It was asked to compare foreign policy issues from two countries historical and in the present and discuss how I felt. They asked what suggestions I would give on a foreign policy issue between my home country and a European country etc. I did the French test. My mother is French and I grew up in Canada but have lives in the US for 25 years. I still got advanced low. My friend is an English language tester and said the key is to use great language to explain that you have no idea how to answer those questions.
The listening and reading are easier. I was not allowed to use headphones on the listening so make sure you are somewhere quite.