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Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - newlion - 10-01-2021 Hello all, I know my research and info isn't complete yet. But I've spent several days putting this much together and would love to be more specific and detailed as I continue to work on finding my best options. Age: 42 Degree wanted: Bachelors in preferred order: Business/BSBA (General MGMT if it's easiest, open to HR MGMT for my career); OR, open to something akin to a BALS if it got the checkbox on the resume at this point. Other options include Org Leadership, etc. RA Credits: 100+ from like 8 schools and 20 years. Finishing this has been excruciating since I run into longer-term commitment issues ACE Credits: None! I'm trying to figure out which school would be the best bang for buck with the following priorities. As mentioned, I am also open to different degree options at this point as I honestly just want something to show for it. I know I am missing some key business courses, and I am likely short on the UL course side as well. 1. Getting this thing done with the least amount of extra work possible 2. Getting a degree done sooner than later 3. Getting a degree in Business/BSBA versus something more generic 4. Not spending a ton if possible, though I am open to paying some out of pocket (<$2k), and am also open to taking on some more federal student loans for higher amounts Here are my previous classes in a Google Sheet. I also tried to shoehorn what I had into a TESU BSBA General MGMT degree, though I don't know if that's the most cost/time effective compared to COSC, EC, or even UMPI (or others! though WGU has been tough for me to stay consistent on in the past). https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LslNf75LtbNgxxL8Z4oyB5-nMYszC_M299L6TtWFH6c/edit I am hoping you'll have some general ideas or thoughts so I am not spinning my wheels in the wrong direction, though I'm happy to continue working on things once I know I'm getting close. Thanks much for looking it over and for any advice!! RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - bjcheung77 - 10-01-2021 COSC will be my suggestion, you can take some UL courses at Study.com and be done with it... Because of the number of courses and being competency based, UMPI/WGU may or may not be for you (boils down to amount of courses you can finish per term). For sheer ease, speed to finish, but double the cost, Excelsior/TESU. BTW, the spreadsheet is locked, people need to request access to it. You should just open the file to anyone to view who has the link. People can't update the file, but can view it, just like what I've done for my spreadsheets that I share. RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - rachel83az - 10-01-2021 COSC might or might not be easiest, depending on how many UL credits you actually have. COSC requires: 30 RA credits (you have that covered), science-with-a-lab (can't see your Google sheet), 30 UL credits. But COSC doesn't allow credits from Davar (they have some of the cheapest business credits, available with just an exam) while TESU and Excelsior do. But TESU and Excelsior both cost a bit more money than COSC. Excelsior also requires 30 UL credits while TESU requires about half that for a BSBA. RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - newlion - 10-01-2021 DOH. Thank you two for both of your replies despite having no info. I know better on the Google Sheet side, but I had just flown in from out of state and also had an early morning, so I rushed it. My apologies! Thanks for the general info above. I will look into it! The link is now open to everyone to be able to see: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LslNf75LtbNgxxL8Z4oyB5-nMYszC_M299L6TtWFH6c/edit?usp=sharing Also, just in case I've slipped up again here at 6am, I'll copy/paste the list of classes I have so far. I believe I am missing a lot on the UL side, plus several standard business courses (Finance, etc), so I'm guessing trying to look towards those schools that have lower UL requirements there will help. As well as possibly just considering a BALS or similar in case it can be done quicker at this point. Microeconomic Principles EC 176 3 Stonehill College 1998 Techniques Of Calculus I MA 121 3 Stonehill College 1998 Introduction To Philosophy PH 160 3 Stonehill College 1998 Intermediate Spanish SP 231 3 Stonehill College 1998 Macroeconomic Principles EC 178 3 Stonehill College 1999 Techniques of Calculus II MA 122 3 Stonehill College 1999 Western Religious Traditions RS 150 3 Stonehill College 1999 Intermediate Spanish SP 232 3 Stonehill College 1999 College Composition WR 143 3 Stonehill College 1999 Introduction To Computers BA 105 3 Stonehill College 1999 Interpersonal Communication CO 105 3 Stonehill College 1999 Business Ethics PH 163 3 Stonehill College 1999 Managerial Communication MGMT 170 4 Clark University 2000 Business Law MGMT 178 4 Clark University 2000 Discovering Physics PHYS 020 4 Clark University 2000 The Skilled Helper EDUC 269 4 Clark University 2000 Intro to MIS MGMT 104 4 Clark University 2000 US Hist Since 1865 HIST 012 4 Clark University 2001 Intro to Music MUSC 010 4 Clark University 2001 Writing Workshop BACP 2050 4 Univ. of Denver UC 2011 Quantitative Reasoning ST 3050 4 Univ. of Denver UC 2011 Discovering Creative Energies CA 2011 4 Univ. of Denver UC 2011 Intro To Acctg I ACCT 221 3 U Mass Amherst 2013 Fundamentals Of Mktg MKTG 301 3 U Mass Amherst 2013 Orgizan'l Behavior & Ldrshp BNC1 3 WGU 2015 Reasoning & Problem Solving CLC1 3 WGU 2015 Principles of Management MGC1 3 WGU 2015 English Composition II TCP1 3 WGU 2015 Introduction to Psychology C180 3 WGU 2018 Intro to Human Resource Mgmt C232 3 WGU 2018 Change Management C721 3 WGU 2018 Marketing Applications VZT1 3 WGU 2018 Fndmntls of Life Science (w/lab) BIOL 189 4 Nevada State College 2019 RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - dfrecore - 10-01-2021 Unfortunately, it's really unclear what's going on with these schools, so it's hard to give you good info. I have questions to ask, that may help: 1) Clark University and U of Denver UC - were either of these quarter-based schools (I ask because of the 4cr courses for everything) 2) for WGU, is there any way to know if these are UL courses?? *The following assumes that VZT1: Marketing Applications, C232: Intro to Human Resource Management, and C721: Change Management from WGU all come in as UL For TESU, I show that you need the following: Oral Comm requirement Diversity Civic Engagement Managerial Accounting Principles of Finance Int'l Business Statistics 1 UL business course in either Accounting or Finance 11 total courses You can do every course through Study.com, or piecemeal it, whichever you decide. -------------------------------------------------- For EC's BSB, you're even better off. You need: 1 SocSci/History course Statistics Managerial Accounting Principles of Finance (UL) Int'l Business (UL) possibly 1 more UL business course 8 total courses (including the 1cr Info Lit course) You can do every course through Study.com, or piecemeal it, whichever you decide. Considering that EC is cheaper than TESU, I'd probably just do this one. Also, contrary to popular belief, EC's BSB degree only requires 21cr of UL in the major, and no UL in the rest of the degree. I got this directly from EC. -------------------------------------------------- For COSC's BSBA, you need the following: Oral Communication Business Statistics (not just plain stats) Managerial Accounting Principles of Finance 2 more business electives and then more UL courses (4-5 I think) 13 total courses (??) -------------------------------------------- I think the EC degree is going to be the easiest to get. But I'd apply at all 3 schools and see how they bring everything in, and then decide from there. RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - newlion - 10-02-2021 You rock! I will look into some of your questions and dig into your suggestions. FTR, U. Denver UC was on the quarter system. Clark University was on the semester system and most all of their classes were simply 4 credits for some reason. Thank you again, truly some very helpful info that I figured someone might have a guess on, and I felt dumb that it wasn't me with all the insights since that's usually my role in life! Much gratitude ? RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - dfrecore - 10-02-2021 (10-02-2021, 01:53 AM)newlion Wrote: You rock! I will look into some of your questions and dig into your suggestions. Finding out if any of the WGU courses are UL would be the best. But honestly, applying at all of the Big 3 would be your best bet. RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - newlion - 11-09-2021 Since I'm sure you all don't get updates too often on your guesses while helping us figure out our degrees, so I wanted to loop back around to give the latest info (and probably ask another question or three). You all were spot on in wondering about the UL transfer requirements. I had some health stuff come up that I've been dealing with, so I didn't apply to COSC at the time as it seemed like the least feasible. I wish I had so I could compare now, but ordering all the transcripts to all of the schools was a pain lol. I've updated my spreadsheet with some of the official transcript reviews, plus a couple unofficial ones using TESU's degree planning link. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LslNf75LtbNgxxL8Z4oyB5-nMYszC_M299L6TtWFH6c/edit?usp=sharing
My main concern is getting something done pretty much as soon as possible (though other factors always come into play). So I see above that TESU/Excelsior could be the right option in that area. But, for instance, I've read on here that TESU can take a couple months to actually confer the degree. Do you have any opinions or suggestions on how to get something done sooner? Are one school's classes/finals/projects simpler than others? I am pretty good at taking tests, though papers will take me longer (I do well on them still, they just take more time). I've even looked into some very random things like Framingham State's Interdisciplinary Bachelor's program (which only requires 8 credits to be taken at their school), but it's hard to get an idea of what their deal is. But if there are any other similar programs that just accept a truckload of credit for a generic degree that would get me down from 30 credits to finish to more like 10-15, I'm all ears. If not, I think one of the above will work. Though again, if you happen to know a tip for a specific degree, or one more school to try (COSC), lmk. I hope this helps some people in the future! For the record, I could only really get info from Excelsior and a couple from TESU on which WGU classes were UL since the others don't break it down, they just show you what you're still missing. Here's the list from my list of classes that were UL: Excelsior: - BNC1 ORGANIZATIONAL BEHAVIOR AND LEADERSHIP - C721 CHANGE MANAGEMENT TESU: - VZT1 Marketing Applications (TESU MAR-479) - C721 Change Management (TESU MAN-415) RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - bjcheung77 - 11-10-2021 COSC/UMPI: Have you applied to them? You have the RA, so if you want to go the COSC route, it should work out to being the closest one. You can go for a BSBA or a BSGS with a concentration if you would like. You just need 6 credits residency, everything remaining can come from ACE (Sophia & Study.com)... And for UMPI, they may be a very good contender as you would only need to get the remaining credits through them, just one semester or two terms and you're done. It should be similar, but cheaper, easier, faster than WGU in the long run... I would think about these two options before you decide on TESU. If you're wanting to do the Bachelors to Masters, TESU is a great option for that as you'll be paying undergrad tuition for graduate credits. When TESU had the comprehensive tuition, I've recommended people to get their double associates/double bachelors with those credits as one technically can get up to 36 credits using that payment plan. However, since the tuition structure has changed, I haven't recommended that option for a while now... getting a Masters from a Competency Based offering would be much cheaper, easier, faster than at any of the Big 3. I would recommend go for the WGU MBA/MSML combo instead! RE: Lots of RA credits, need more UL credits - need help deciding on which school/degree - newlion - 11-10-2021 (11-10-2021, 12:25 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: COSC/UMPI: Have you applied to them? You have the RA, so if you want to go the COSC route, it should work out to being the closest one. You can go for a BSBA or a BSGS with a concentration if you would like. You just need 6 credits residency, everything remaining can come from ACE (Sophia & Study.com)... And for UMPI, they may be a very good contender as you would only need to get the remaining credits through them, just one semester or two terms and you're done. It should be similar, but cheaper, easier, faster than WGU in the long run... I would think about these two options before you decide on TESU. Yes, I actually did apply to UMPI, just a little later. They have everything on hand in terms of transcripts, but when I talked to them yesterday morning, the application part still wasn't showing up in their system. I'll be interested to see how things shake out there. And since I have time, I went ahead and got the process started at COSC as well just to have that last comparison. Thanks for the tips! And for the notes on the MBA options. Definitely very handy and helpful to have it all figured out and ready to just put into action when the time comes. |