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COSC Accepting few SDC credits - scottlefoll - 03-21-2022 Just want to let people know that COSC is severely reducing what they will accept from Study.com. After many conversations with an Academic Advisor from COSC, they finally admitted (I don't think they meant to) that it "was unfair" that people were using COSC just for degree completion and not taking courses directly from them (at $1,500 each). So, basically, they are not taking a course if they have the same course in their online catalog. This pertains mostly to upper level courses, but be careful because they could claim it for anything when you go to transfer. Also, Study.com has shut down any Saylor transfers for the same reason. This especially pertains to Computer Science - after July 1 only 5 courses from SDC will transfer to COSC (down from 25+ last fall), and none at all from Saylor Academy (down from 5 last fall). But I get the feeling that this will happen in all areas - COSC is determined to become a full-fledged online school, and to limit mere "degree completion." I applied and was accepted there last month, and every phone call I had, every email, only talked about taking classes through them. When classes would start, the cost, etc... all trying to steer new students towards being "regular online" students through COSC. RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - ss20ts - 03-21-2022 Saylor and Study.com are 2 separate companies. You can't transfer Saylor courses to Study.com RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - LevelUP - 03-21-2022 (03-21-2022, 01:56 PM)scottlefoll Wrote: Just want to let people know that COSC is severely reducing what they will accept from Study.com. After many conversations with an Academic Advisor from COSC, they finally admitted (I don't think they meant to) that it "was unfair" that people were using COSC just for degree completion and not taking courses directly from them (at $1,500 each). I saw you posted this same thread in multiple areas which you don't need to do. The other thread was deleted. COSC is a school in which you need to bring in all your credits before you enroll as they charge quarterly enrollment fees. I heard they were getting more strict with SDC. In the case SDC credits are denied going against the Study.com transfer guide, you could appeal, then if still denied, I would find another school that take 75%+ transfer credits https://study.com/college/school/charter-oak-state-college.html RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - rachel83az - 03-21-2022 Not super surprised at this. COSC hasn't been a "good" school to choose since they stopped accepting most alternate credit and UMPI became an option - and a potentially cheaper one at that! If competency-based isn't your thing, Excelsior doesn't cost that much more than COSC and it has roughly the same degrees available. RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - bjcheung77 - 03-21-2022 COSC, what are you doing?! I guess they're gearing up for mainly community college and university non finishers who have plenty of credit and about done with their degrees and haven't had the chance to finish. It seems that way at least... COSC is possible still for a cheap college degree as it still allows 114 credits transferred, let's hope they don't change the 114 transfer limit and setup a residency requirement of 15/16 credits like TESU. RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - Tedium - 03-21-2022 I mean, I get it from their point of view. It does suck for them. They get ~$3500 at most for a lot of the members on this board. They actually got more from me, because I took several English courses with them. But if this model is hurting them so badly then they need to change their policies all at once. It's like Pierpont. I have no idea why they allow the AAS BOG to be used by non-West Virginia residents with no residency requirements. Do not get me wrong, I'm glad they are, but we're actually costing them money. I'm so super surprised they have let it go on this way for so long. It's silly that COSC is even complaining. They could add a residency waiver fee like TESU, and that would net them some extra cash. They could require 25% of the degree to be completed at COSC, or whatever. People aren't taking the courses with them because they cost too much. All they're going to do by taking away more sources of alternative credit is drive students to other schools. Even as recently as when I joined this board, the Big 3 were the only games in town. Now we have so many options, and that's a good thing. I know that most of the students that attend COSC take classes there beyond Cornerstone and Capstone by their own numbers, so how badly are the students on this board actually hurting the school? Their current model is set-up for degree completion, so either embrace it or change your model. RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - freeloader - 03-21-2022 (03-21-2022, 05:21 PM)Tedium Wrote: It's like Pierpont. I have no idea why they allow the AAS BOG to be used by non-West Virginia residents with no residency requirements. Do not get me wrong, I'm glad they are, but we're actually costing them money. I'm so super surprised they have let it go on this way for so long.I wonder the same thing. Of course, it’s possible that they actually want to help students. I also think about graduation rates. These were incredibly important for the Obama Education Department when those rates were linked to eligibility to receive student loans. Pierpont’s graduation rate isn’t great (true for a lot of CC). Numbers reported on vary a fair bit, but one list has it at 12.2% (link below). The BOG AAS could be a strategy to improve graduation rates across the West Virginia college and university system, Pierpont just takes it a step further than other schools. US News puts their enrollment at around 1,800 students. It is probably a pretty safe assumption that BOG AAS, as a degree completion program, graduates its students at FAR more than 12%. For a school of this size, enrolling only a handful of BOG AAS students each year and graduation them at, say, a 50%+ clip would have a clear and meaningful impact on those graduation rates! And helping students isn’t bad either… https://www.collegesimply.com/colleges/rank/colleges/lowest-graduation-rate/state/west-virginia/ RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - carrythenothing - 03-21-2022 Required data for graduation rates is based on "full-time, first-time degree and certificate-seeking undergraduate students." https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/use-the-data/survey-components/9/graduation-rates RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - Tedium - 03-21-2022 Check this out: https://wp.cga.ct.gov/apa/wp-content/cgacustom/reports/Charter%20Oak%20State%20College_20211007_FY2019,2020.pdf?msclkid=84d6eeb4a97511ecb6fbf14047186258 At least as of 2020, COSC has no idea where it's money is going according to this audit. A few interesting snippets: Quote:Charter Oak executed an online tutoring contract with a maximum value of $24,999. Quote:The college did not sufficiently commit funds prior to incurring nine expenses, totaling Quote:The college paid more than $169,000 to an information technology infrastructure This is my favorite: Quote:In December 2019, Charter Oak State College discovered the program coordinator of the Quote:The college did not consistently tag or enter controllable equipment items into inventory records. The college also did not have a written controllable property policy. Charter Oak State College should maintain complete inventory records, tag equipment, and develop a written controllable property policy in accordance with the State Property Control Manual and Connecticut State Colleges and Universities Capital & Controllable Asset Manual. Cry to me about how unfair it is to have degree completion students like us when you get your finances in order. RE: COSC Accepting few SDC credits - carrythenothing - 03-21-2022 Here's the 2021 report: https://wp.cga.ct.gov/apa/wp-content/cgacustom/reports/Charter%20Oak%20State%20College%20Foundation,%20Inc._20211020_FY2021.pdf |