(08-16-2023, 12:50 AM)jch Wrote: Many of the BS degrees at TESU require students to complete either Physics I&II or Chemistry I&II (with labs). In past years, degreeforum members have reported that they were able to obtain a waiver from the school dean to take Physics I and Chemistry I to fulfill the requirement. Has anyone pursued such a waiver recently, and what were your results? I'm looking to do that for BSIT/BSTS.

(08-16-2023, 05:11 AM)GameSlinger Wrote:

(08-16-2023, 12:50 AM)jch Wrote: Many of the BS degrees at TESU require students to complete either Physics I&II or Chemistry I&II (with labs). In past years, degreeforum members have reported that they were able to obtain a waiver from the school dean to take Physics I and Chemistry I to fulfill the requirement. Has anyone pursued such a waiver recently, and what were your results? I'm looking to do that for BSIT/BSTS.

I was wondering about this myself. I can see them wanting you to have a solid scientific basis for a BS degree, but requiring Physics 1 and 2 or Chemistry 1 and 2 for a BSBA is a bit strict.

(07-24-2020, 09:15 PM)rpmranger Wrote:

(07-24-2020, 08:02 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Don't you have to take Chem I & II, or Physics I & II?

No, I wanted to be very sure about that detail so I got approval (in writing) to do 1 and 1 of each from the department head. I'm not sure if it's an exception or not. I did already have other 4cr Science/Labs I transferred in from a B/M University plus a bunch of other Science courses so maybe that's why they approved the request? I have no idea.

(08-16-2023, 10:40 AM)jch Wrote: There were several reports in 2020 and earlier of people who reported getting a waiver. Here's the last example I've found so far:

(07-24-2020, 09:15 PM)rpmranger Wrote:

(07-24-2020, 08:02 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Don't you have to take Chem I & II, or Physics I & II?

No, I wanted to be very sure about that detail so I got approval (in writing) to do 1 and 1 of each from the department head. I'm not sure if it's an exception or not. I did already have other 4cr Science/Labs I transferred in from a B/M University plus a bunch of other Science courses so maybe that's why they approved the request? I have no idea.

Has anything changed since then in how TESU worded or applied the science requirement?

(08-16-2023, 11:28 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Your best bet is to continue with your current classes and also email the registrar at TESU to verify you can do the 1+1 instead of a particular natural science 1/2.  I don't think there has been any changes, have you also tried doing the 'what if' option to see if your sciences came through?

(08-16-2023, 11:43 AM)jch Wrote:

(08-16-2023, 11:28 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Your best bet is to continue with your current classes and also email the registrar at TESU to verify you can do the 1+1 instead of a particular natural science 1/2.  I don't think there has been any changes, have you also tried doing the 'what if' option to see if your sciences came through?

I haven't completed either physics or chemistry yet, so I can't use what-if to predict things. I'll probably just go ahead and ask for a waiver once advising makes some other changes to my degree programs. 
I just pulled up an old catalog from 2019 and compared it to the current one - they both use the exact same language. Both state that Physics I with Lab OR Chemistry I with Lab 4 AND Physics II with Lab OR Chemistry II with Lab 4 are required. Hopefully they haven't decided to stop giving out waivers to allow I from chem&physics. Interesting note, neither catalog specifies that both sciences must be from the same field.

(08-16-2023, 11:42 AM)allvia Wrote:

(08-16-2023, 10:40 AM)jch Wrote: There were several reports in 2020 and earlier of people who reported getting a waiver. Here's the last example I've found so far:

(07-24-2020, 09:15 PM)rpmranger Wrote:

(07-24-2020, 08:02 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Don't you have to take Chem I & II, or Physics I & II?

No, I wanted to be very sure about that detail so I got approval (in writing) to do 1 and 1 of each from the department head. I'm not sure if it's an exception or not. I did already have other 4cr Science/Labs I transferred in from a B/M University plus a bunch of other Science courses so maybe that's why they approved the request? I have no idea.

Has anything changed since then in how TESU worded or applied the science requirement?

Yes, it is quite different than from 2020 - https://web.archive.org/web/20201204234108/https://www.tesu.edu/ast/programs/bs/it

And now in 2023 - https://web.archive.org/web/20230603160055/https://www.tesu.edu/ast/programs/bs/it