• Livello I is official and requires a Thesis. 
  
• Italian ECTS looks to be more widely recognized than a Propio with ECTS.
  
• Livello I has more acceptance as a bona fide level 7 qualification across the EHEA
  
• Livello I can potentially be accepted for transfer credit or as a prerequisite for entry into other programmes,
  

(09-22-2025, 08:41 AM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: The Unimarconi Master program offered in collaboration with ENEB seems to be a worthwhile endeavor.  As always, I will wait to start the program after seeing the results of evaluations from people who complete the program.   The ENEB degree looks to be treated as a Masters Livello I in transfer and completing the rest of the program at Unimarconi is a Masters Livello 2.   Foreign credential evaluators will view these differently.  However, it looks like it will be a minimum Masters degree equivalency from more conservative evaluators while the more progressive evaluators will give it something above a Masters equivalency like a post-graduate certificate, post-Masters certificate, or a Masters that requires a Masters.  Thus, you would be getting more than just a validated Masters overall.

(09-22-2025, 09:27 AM)PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 Wrote:

(09-22-2025, 08:41 AM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: The Unimarconi Master program offered in collaboration with ENEB seems to be a worthwhile endeavor.  As always, I will wait to start the program after seeing the results of evaluations from people who complete the program.   The ENEB degree looks to be treated as a Masters Livello I in transfer and completing the rest of the program at Unimarconi is a Masters Livello 2.   Foreign credential evaluators will view these differently.  However, it looks like it will be a minimum Masters degree equivalency from more conservative evaluators while the more progressive evaluators will give it something above a Masters equivalency like a post-graduate certificate, post-Masters certificate, or a Masters that requires a Masters.  Thus, you would be getting more than just a validated Masters overall.

I've reached out to a director at Unimarconi to ask for clarification. So far, we have a confirmed email from ENEB that states these will be Livello I, and also confirmed on a phone call with ENEB. Neither is telling me anything definitively

Also as you hold an MEd, a level 7 and a Bacherlor's degree, a Level 6.  It would be on the basis of those, that you'd be admitted to a Livello II alone, not based on a propio.

One small clarification, a "Postgraduate" is not like a post doctorate... A Postgraduate is not above a Master's degree.  
In the UK  a "graduate" refers to students who earn a university diploma or certificate at the undergraduate level.

A Postgraduate in the UK is equivalent to the Graduate School level in the US. 
I know it can be confusing, but the Brits like to call things a little differently.

UK:
Graduate (Undergrad Cert/Diploma)
Postgraduate (Master's Level/Cert/Diploma)

Hopefully we hear back soon. I am very tempted to take the offer. If it's Livello II then even better

(09-22-2025, 10:15 AM)slammX Wrote:

(09-22-2025, 09:27 AM)PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 Wrote:

(09-22-2025, 08:41 AM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: The Unimarconi Master program offered in collaboration with ENEB seems to be a worthwhile endeavor.  As always, I will wait to start the program after seeing the results of evaluations from people who complete the program.   The ENEB degree looks to be treated as a Masters Livello I in transfer and completing the rest of the program at Unimarconi is a Masters Livello 2.   Foreign credential evaluators will view these differently.  However, it looks like it will be a minimum Masters degree equivalency from more conservative evaluators while the more progressive evaluators will give it something above a Masters equivalency like a post-graduate certificate, post-Masters certificate, or a Masters that requires a Masters.  Thus, you would be getting more than just a validated Masters overall.

I've reached out to a director at Unimarconi to ask for clarification. So far, we have a confirmed email from ENEB that states these will be Livello I, and also confirmed on a phone call with ENEB. Neither is telling me anything definitively

Also as you hold an MEd, a level 7 and a Bacherlor's degree, a Level 6.  It would be on the basis of those, that you'd be admitted to a Livello II alone, not based on a propio.

One small clarification, a "Postgraduate" is not like a post doctorate... A Postgraduate is not above a Master's degree.  
In the UK  a "graduate" refers to students who earn a university diploma or certificate at the undergraduate level.

A Postgraduate in the UK is equivalent to the Graduate School level in the US. 
I know it can be confusing, but the Brits like to call things a little differently.

UK:
Graduate (Undergrad Cert/Diploma)
Postgraduate (Master's Level/Cert/Diploma)

Hopefully we hear back soon. I am very tempted to take the offer. If it's Livello II then even better

This is really interesting to learn. In South Africa a postgraduate is not on the same level as a Masters, it's a notch below, between an undergraduate degree and a master's degree. 

We have undergraduate (bachelor's), postgraduate, masters, then doctorate. We don't have post-doctorates in our national qualifications framework. That is an applied research position after doctoral studies, but its not a qualification itself.

(09-22-2025, 10:21 AM)PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 Wrote:

(09-22-2025, 10:15 AM)slammX Wrote:

(09-22-2025, 09:27 AM)PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 Wrote:

(09-22-2025, 08:41 AM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: The Unimarconi Master program offered in collaboration with ENEB seems to be a worthwhile endeavor.  As always, I will wait to start the program after seeing the results of evaluations from people who complete the program.   The ENEB degree looks to be treated as a Masters Livello I in transfer and completing the rest of the program at Unimarconi is a Masters Livello 2.   Foreign credential evaluators will view these differently.  However, it looks like it will be a minimum Masters degree equivalency from more conservative evaluators while the more progressive evaluators will give it something above a Masters equivalency like a post-graduate certificate, post-Masters certificate, or a Masters that requires a Masters.  Thus, you would be getting more than just a validated Masters overall.

I've reached out to a director at Unimarconi to ask for clarification. So far, we have a confirmed email from ENEB that states these will be Livello I, and also confirmed on a phone call with ENEB. Neither is telling me anything definitively

Also as you hold an MEd, a level 7 and a Bacherlor's degree, a Level 6.  It would be on the basis of those, that you'd be admitted to a Livello II alone, not based on a propio.

One small clarification, a "Postgraduate" is not like a post doctorate... A Postgraduate is not above a Master's degree.  
In the UK  a "graduate" refers to students who earn a university diploma or certificate at the undergraduate level.

A Postgraduate in the UK is equivalent to the Graduate School level in the US. 
I know it can be confusing, but the Brits like to call things a little differently.

UK:
Graduate (Undergrad Cert/Diploma)
Postgraduate (Master's Level/Cert/Diploma)

Hopefully we hear back soon. I am very tempted to take the offer. If it's Livello II then even better

This is really interesting to learn. In South Africa a postgraduate is not on the same level as a Masters, it's a notch below, between an undergraduate degree and a master's degree. 

We have undergraduate (bachelor's), postgraduate, masters, then doctorate. We don't have post-doctorates in our national qualifications framework. That is an applied research position after doctoral studies, but its not a qualification itself.

Yes in the UK a Postgraduate Cert (PGCert) is a notch below a Postgraduate Diploma (PGDip). A PGDip is a notch below a Master's degree.
I think South Africa is very much the same as the UK.

Postgraduate is not a term in the US, but literally to an American it can sound like something one earns after a Master's degree, but it's not.  In the US it would simply be called a graduate school certificate.

Also Diploma is not used in the US much at all after High School.  In the UK Diplomas are a notch above Certs.  Technically speaking, a Master's Degree in the US is a Master's Diploma, but it refers to the piece of paper, not the actual award (degree) itself.  Little confusing at times but fun nonetheless.

(09-22-2025, 07:17 AM)PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 Wrote: Thanks, yes Italy's Livello I is very much like Spain's Propio after all. In Europe and abroad, however, a Livello I seems just a tad better than a Titulo Propio because:

• Livello I is official and requires a Thesis. 
  
• Italian ECTS looks to be more widely recognized than a Propio with ECTS.
  
• Livello I has more acceptance as a bona fide level 7 qualification across the EHEA
  
• Livello I can potentially be accepted for transfer credit or as a prerequisite for entry into other programmes,
  

Meanwhile the Propio, at best, can qualify for 15 ECTS transfer towards a Titulo Official in Spain.
Both Livello I or II, seem only marginally better than the propio becaue neither look to be a guaranteed way for further study.

Livello II is only slightly better than a Livello I, because to gain entry to a Livello II, it requires a Laurea Magistrale or other level 7 quallifications.
I like this opportunity regardless, as I am working on a UK MBA and I won't need to rely on Livello I or II to gain entry to another level. 
Level I is something I would do simply for the extra learning

My business studies will be concluded after this as I transition to healthcare.

• Master di primo livello: Requires a Laurea triennale (ISCED 6). It is classified at ISCED 7, but not always equivalent to a full “Laurea magistrale”.
  
• Master di secondo livello: Requires a Laurea magistrale (ISCED 7). It is also at ISCED 7, but represents a more advanced postgraduate specialization
  

(09-22-2025, 11:17 AM)chopliver2 Wrote:

(09-22-2025, 07:17 AM)PearsonOTHMQualifi7654 Wrote: Thanks, yes Italy's Livello I is very much like Spain's Propio after all. In Europe and abroad, however, a Livello I seems just a tad better than a Titulo Propio because:

• Livello I is official and requires a Thesis. 
  
• Italian ECTS looks to be more widely recognized than a Propio with ECTS.
  
• Livello I has more acceptance as a bona fide level 7 qualification across the EHEA
  
• Livello I can potentially be accepted for transfer credit or as a prerequisite for entry into other programmes,
  

Meanwhile the Propio, at best, can qualify for 15 ECTS transfer towards a Titulo Official in Spain.
Both Livello I or II, seem only marginally better than the propio becaue neither look to be a guaranteed way for further study.

Livello II is only slightly better than a Livello I, because to gain entry to a Livello II, it requires a Laurea Magistrale or other level 7 quallifications.
I like this opportunity regardless, as I am working on a UK MBA and I won't need to rely on Livello I or II to gain entry to another level. 
Level I is something I would do simply for the extra learning

My business studies will be concluded after this as I transition to healthcare.

Just to clarify:

• Master di primo livello: Requires a Laurea triennale (ISCED 6). It is classified at ISCED 7, but not always equivalent to a full “Laurea magistrale”.
  
• Master di secondo livello: Requires a Laurea magistrale (ISCED 7). It is also at ISCED 7, but represents a more advanced postgraduate specialization