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Help with assessment? - zen - 10-22-2008

Hello All,

I need some help "advise" regarding which school might be better to enroll into:
1. Excelsior
2.Charter Oak
3. TESC

If anyone has an imput it will be greatly appreciated.
I have read the posts the websites and I am at a point of "breakdown".

My idea is to try and get a degree (RA) because of my "college of teachers" in Ontario, Canada to be regignised.

Furthermore to be able to finish the degree requirements ASAP because of time constraints (1-3 years max). Be cost effective. be able to use as much as possible:
1. CLEP
2. DSST (prometric)
2. ECE, TESC or COSC exams.

Here is what I have and all of this can be verified with original transcripts.
If any of you would help to point me to the School that will most likely give me the greater advanced standing (credits) for the courses I have done I would be thankfull.

I have contacted teh Ec-evaluators for information, but would like to choose one that will be best (save some money on sending all three the same info).

By the way the degree can be BA or any other, does not matter, I am already teaching and would not be for salary or other purposes except just in case for the futuure.

Thanks to all for your help

Here it goes.

George Brown College (2006)
Electro-Mechanical Technician – Certificate (w/Honours) Electromechanical Technician Certificate Home Study Training -
They say 40 contact hours per module (4 credit hrs each on the transcript)
ELNC 9034 Introduction to Electronics
ELCL 9049 Current, Voltage and Resistance
ELCL 9050 Ohm’s Law, Power and Energy
ELCL 9048 Series Circuits
ELCL 9047 Parallel Circuits
ELCL 9046 Series-Parallel Circuits
ELNC 9036 DC Measuring Instruments
ELNC 9053 Industrial Control Devices
ELCL 9044 Magnetism
ELCL 9059 DC Motors and Control Circuits
ELCL 9042 Alternating Voltages and Currents
ELCL 9041 AC Measuring Instruments
ELCL 9040 Capacitance and Capacitors
ELCL 9039 Inductance and Inductors
ELNC 9033 Transformers
ELNC 9056 AC Motors and Variable Frequency Drives
ELCL 9060 Analog and Digital Transducers
ELNC 9055 Industrial Process Control
ELNC 9030 Semiconductor Fundamentals
ELNC 9037 Transistors and Thyristors
ELNC 9029 Amplifier Circuits
ELNC 9028 Operational Amplifiers
ELNC 9035 Digital Electronics
ELNC 9054 Programmable Logic Controllers

Queen’s University-Kingston, Ontario – Additional Qualification Courses
1.AQ - Queen’s University (on-line) Cooperative Education Part 1`(Full Course)
2.AQ – Queen’s University (on-line) Computers in the Classroom Part 1 (Full Course)
3.AQ- Queen’s University (on-line) Special Education Part 1 (Full Course)

Queen’s University (2002-2003) Bachelor of Education, Diploma in Education | Faculty of Education, Queen's University
Diploma in Education – (Summer program) Technology Studies

1. Teaching Tech. Ed. Part 1
2. Curriculum Development in Tech Ed. Part 1
3. Computers, Software and Teaching Part 1
4. Broad-based technological Ed
5. Critical Issues and Policies
6. Theory and Professional Practice
7. Teaching Tech Ed part 2
8. Curriculum Development in Tech Ed part 2
9. Learning and Development in Adolescence
10. Practicum-Tech-ed Summer Intern

CDI College of Business and Technology (1999-2000)
bought by Corinthian Colleges (Called Everest in Ontario)http://www.cdicollege.ca/; Everest College of Business, Technology & Health Care in Canada - Formerly CDI College in Ontario
Diploma –Computer Network Specialist private college (1160 hrs )

At some point when I graduated, Strayer Uni. was giving 81 credit hours for CDI diploma alone, but the price was still too much for me CAD dollar was at 0.64 withe the USD.

1. Elements of Software Application
2. Introduction to the Internet
3. Logic and Programming
4. Programming Techniques
5. Internal Operation of Computers
6. Data Structures
7. Introduction to Unix
8. Advanced Unix
9. Database Management Systems
10. Networking Essentials
11. System Administration for NetWare 4.11
12. Advanced System Administration
13. Installation and Configuration NetWare
14. Troubleshooting and Support for Networks
15. Building Intranets with IntranetWare
16. Design and Implementation for NetWare
17. Windows NT Workstation
18. Windows NT Server

Note: NO class was less than 50 hrs in length

Centennial College (1993-1995) - PROGRAM Discontinued
Certificate - Basic Electronics Centennial College | Ontario's first community college

1. DC Circuits
2. Electrical Fundamentals
3. Electronics 1
4. Mathematics 1 (Algebra and Geometry)
5. Devices and Circuits
6. AC Circuits 1
7. Electronic Fundamentals
8. Technical Writing
9. Mathematics 2 (Algebra,Geometry and Intro to Calc's)

Centennial College (1994-1995)
Additional Courses
1. AutoCAD 2 (Not the certificate)
2. Digital Principles
3. Technical Drawing 1

DeVry College of Technology (1998-1999)
1. Microcomputer/Business Applications
2. Business Software

For all of the courses/Diplomas above the averages were "A" in Canada over 80%. GPA 3.5 an up.
A+ - Certified Computer Technician – 2001
CNA – Certified Novell Administrator – 2000
AutoCAD 2000 – Training Certificate

Thanks again

Respectfully,

Zen

Help with assessment? - barcotta - 10-22-2008

Quote:If any of you would help to point me to the School that will most likely give me the greater advanced standing (credits) for the courses I have done I would be thankfull.

I can't comment on your post in full, but with regard to your question above I can tell you that TESC has the reputation for the most generous evaluations for upper-level credits. I read on this board that they will provide upper-level credit in some cases for 200 level courses. I know that Excelsior will not. One of the reasons cited for providing UL credit for 200 courses was depth. If you have six (or nine--I don't remember which) credits in a specific concentration--any subsequent courses in the same concentration will be considered upper-level--even if they were 200 level. That may even apply to 100 level. Others should pipe in shortly--but I would start there. Good luck.

Help with assessment? - cookderosa - 10-22-2008

In order to know if or where your credits will fall, you have to say which degree you hope to earn and if the classes you took were credit bearing or continuing education units.

Having earned a technical degree myself, I'll be the bearer of bad news, but your mountain is getting your general education credits. You won't be able to use most of your credits listed simply because there is always a cap on how professional courses are accepted. Education, electronics, and business don't apply to general ed requirements (computers sometimes yes/sometimes no)

Your looking at roughly 60 gen ed credits no matter where you go. Chin up, all the those 60 gen ed credits can be completed fully by CLEP testing at your own pace- and much cheaper than classes. AND, the best thing (in my opinion) is that you're a blank slate- your not locked into any degree path at this point. The world is your oyster as they say. You can choose any major and dive in.

IF you applied to TESC in a BA degree program, I'd guesstimate your evaluation to be:

33 credits earned
87 left to earn

Technical Writing, 3 credits toward humanities (MAYBE, not probably)
Mathematics 1, 3 credits toward math (probably)
Free electives, 27 (your maxed out)

***other degrees and other schools will break down differently, but gen ed is gen ed is gen ed.***

Help with assessment? - zen - 10-23-2008

Thanks Jennifer,

I was looking into TESC's BSc. Electronics Enginnering or the Computer Science courses and it looks to me that I might get few more courses at these degrees (Fort Hays has an attractive Bachelor of Scinece in General Studies, but they accept very few CLEP's). I agree that I will need to take the Gen. Ed. courses but I can do CLEP and DSST for the lower level and some DSST upper level through Prometric and some colleges here in Toronto. The rest of upper level Engineering or the Computer Science will be taken as courses via Distance. I guess the bottom line is to graduate as quickly as possible.

Question:

Should I take CLEp's and DSST's before I enroll to TESC and send my transcripts at ECE for evaluation or enroll and than take CLEP's and DSST's. Would TESC allow me to do that, to make up the short fall?

Thanks for your input.

Help with assessment? - cookderosa - 10-23-2008

Question:

Should I take CLEp's and DSST's before I enroll to TESC and send my transcripts at ECE for evaluation or enroll and than take CLEP's and DSST's. Would TESC allow me to do that, to make up the short fall?

Thanks for your input.[/QUOTE]
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If you enroll at TESC or EC, they both have a yearly enrollment fees (TESC's is about $2000) so the most cost-effective way is to plan it out so you can do all of your requirements inside of one year.

What I would do first is apply. ($75) This takes a while since you have to forward official transcripts over to them. This is more expensive than people think! Also, it can take a LONGGGGG time - you have a lot of schools!

It's important because you KNOW what credits will count and where. That is important info so you can start planning. At the same time I took a few exams I knew I needed (English for example).

You'll get an evaluation back from TESC, an online access student ID to view your evaluation, and a deadline to enroll.

Your application is good for 6 months. So, in those 6 months, I took a lot of exams, and the results were forwarded to TESC automatically by selecting them as my receiving institution on the exam screen. (easier than it sounds- just check the box and away it goes)
You should enroll after 6 months, or TESC will charge you another $75, and you'll have to send transcripts again.

Once you enroll, you have 1 year under the enrollment fee. Additional years are cheaper, but still expensive. A year is VERY doable for someone in your shoes.

2 other things to consider:
Apply for financial aid, there are grants and scholarships too.

Look at the classes required for any degree plan, TESC sometimes requires classes that they don't offer. This means YOU have to find a class (local or online) and transfer it back to them. Problem? Sometimes.