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Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - Paul - 11-02-2009

For the BSBA degree from TESC the credit distribution for Natural Sciences and Mathematics are:
1. Precal (3)
2. Statistics (3)
3. Other Natural Sciences (3)
MUST INCLUDE AT LEAST TWO SUBJECT AREAS

Ok, so the Precal & Statistics are required. IF we use DANTES Intro to Computing (listed in the TESC College Catalog DANTES Exams as a Natural Sciences/Mathematics) for #3 Other Natural Sciences will that work or will it violate the MUST INCLUDE AT LEAST TWO SUBJECT AREAS rule?

One more question: the Statistics required for this degree - Is that the Introduction to Statistics or the Business Statistics? Seems like I remember reading somewhere it is the Introduction to Statistics but I can't find the thread.
Thanks for your help!

Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - Rhashad - 11-02-2009

Quantitative analysis can also be used instead of Pre-Cal.

Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - gckrombach - 01-14-2010

Did you ever find the answer to this?

Also, for the Gen. Management degree, Intro to Computers is listed as a business core requirement.

Would the DSST Intro to computing satisfy this requirement and/or the Natural Science requirement?

Can a DSST "double-dip" and satisfy multiple degree requirements?
gck

Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - Levi - 01-14-2010

Rhashad Wrote:Quantitative analysis can also be used instead of Pre-Cal.

What exactly IS quantitative analysis? Big Grin

Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - Levi - 01-14-2010

Paul Wrote:IF we use DANTES Intro to Computing (listed in the TESC College Catalog DANTES Exams as a Natural Sciences/Mathematics) for #3 Other Natural Sciences will that work or will it violate the MUST INCLUDE AT LEAST TWO SUBJECT AREAS rule?

One more question: the Statistics required for this degree - Is that the Introduction to Statistics or the Business Statistics? Seems like I remember reading somewhere it is the Introduction to Statistics but I can't find the thread.
Thanks for your help!

Edit: I have changed some of the information in this post because I gave some wrong info earlier.

Technically, yes, taking the Intro to Computing exam COULD count for your final 3 credits for Natural Science/Math requirements; HOWEVER, since Intro to Computing is listed as one of your core business requirements on the TESC template, it cannot be used for both your core business requirements AND your General Ed requirements.

I'm working on the same degree at TESC.....I took the CLEP Natural Sciences for 6 credits. That way, I could use the surplus 3 credits to apply toward my General Ed electives. To fulfill your remaining three Nat Sci/Math credits, you could take CLEP Natural Sci like I did and have 3 extra credits, or you could take DSST Astronomy, Environment & Humanity, Physical Geology, College Algebra, Physical Science; or you could take CLEP College Algebra or Calculus (all worth 3 credits).

And yes, the Principles of Statistics DSST will satisfy the stats requirement for your BSBA. You don't need to take the Business Stats class unless you just want to. Big Grin

Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - bricabrac - 01-14-2010

Paul -

Yes, COS-101 Intro to Computing does count as a Natural Science credit. You could also use ALEKS courses Intermediate Algebra (MAT-115) or College Algebra (MAT-121) to fill the Natural Sciences requirements. They would be a great refresher (if needed) for QBA or PreCalc.

You can take the course Computer Concepts and Applications (CIS-107) which will transcribe as a Natural Science or Business requirement. It is basically the same information used for the COS-101 DSST exam. After I finished the class I took the DSST exam. If you actually pay attention in class (which I didn't-skated through for an easy B+) you would also be set up for the MIS exam with very light review.

So far as stats is concerned you could use principles of stats STA-201 or business stats OPM-351. Although not guaranteed, as a business major they may give you credit for both.

Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - bricabrac - 01-14-2010

Levi_1989 Wrote:What exactly IS quantitative analysis? Big Grin

Edit for clarity - QBA (MAT-119) is for business majors; in my opinion its a mix of stats/precalc. An advisor at TESC described it as a lighter version of precalc (MAT-129).

Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - Levi - 01-15-2010

bricabrac Wrote:Yes, COS-101 Intro to Computing does count as a Natural Science credit.

bricabrac,

I understand that DSST Intro to Computing would technically count towards the Natural Science/Math requirement, but if he's going to use DSST Intro to Comp to fulfill the business core requirement for "Computer Concepts and Applications/Introduction to Computers/CIS," then the same test can't be used for both requirements.....correct?

See this TESC link: Thomas Edison State College | BSBA in General Management Credit Distribution

Intro To Computing - use for Nat Sci/Math for TESC Business Degree? - bricabrac - 01-15-2010

Levi_1989,

CIS-107 (course) and COS-101 (test) do not duplicate. Although tests COS-101-CE and COS-101-DE are duplicates. I know its a bit confusing.

Any who, to get the best bang for your buck -
  1. Take the course CIS-107/Computer Concepts & Applications to fulfill the business core requirement (much easier than COS-101 because it does not include BASIC programming)
  2. Test DSST COS-101/Introduction to Computing for gen ed requirement (it is basically the same information as the CIS-107 course)
  3. You can then go one step further and test DSST MIS-301/Managment Information Systems for UL business or gen ed credit after brief review of IC flashcards.
Bottom line - the test version of COS-101-DE is much easier than the actual course. CIS-107 counts as a science course and gives you the necessary foundation for other computer science tests so why not take it?

Hope this helps!

Levi_1989 Wrote:bricabrac,

I understand that DSST Intro to Computing would technically count towards the Natural Science/Math requirement, but if he's going to use DSST Intro to Comp to fulfill the business core requirement for "Computer Concepts and Applications/Introduction to Computers/CIS," then the same test can't be used for both requirements.....correct?

See this TESC link: Thomas Edison State College | BSBA in General Management Credit Distribution