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New York May Offer Free Tuition Soon
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(06-17-2018, 08:54 PM)miah Wrote:
(06-17-2018, 08:47 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(06-17-2018, 08:41 PM)miah Wrote:
(06-17-2018, 08:03 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(06-17-2018, 06:09 PM)miah Wrote: Student loans should not be higher interest than auto or mortgages (IMHO) ... it's just not fair.... it used to be that attending college and higher education could help raise you up out of poverty and debt.... not so sure that is as true now for the masses that use the traditional route of achieving higher education degrees...

I know plenty of kids paying their way through school, or who have grants and scholarships.  You do NOT have to take out tens of thousands of dollars of student loans to get through school!  If you can't afford it, you can choose less expensive schools, choose to work for a year or two instead of going to school, find jobs where they will pay for tuition, etc.  People who go to schools they can't afford and then take out tons of student loans to pay for it...well, that was just not smart.  I'm not talking about $10k in student loans, I'm talking $50-$150k.  That's just dumb.

And yes, when I was 18, and got accepted to Stanford, I thought it might be a great idea to take out loans to go, and my mom said ABSOLUTELY NOT!  Thank heavens someone in my life was smarter than I was right then, because I was an 18 year old moron.

I used to think that as well, but sometimes you don't have a choice to stay local if you want to get a degree such as Veterinary Technology or some other similar majors that are not available at every school, like business and psychology or education degrees are.

My nephews went to NYS SUNY schools and still graduated in debt! It is can cost $25,000 a year to attend STATE PUBLIC SCHOOLS in NYS by the time you add together tuition and fees and room and board and books!

Maybe other states are less expensive for instate students, but the cost of room and board is more than the cost of tuition and fees so you can't use that blanket statement for all students!

A 4 year degree will cost at least $100,000 in NYS at SUNY colleges. These are state colleges and universities, not private colleges!

Don't most 4-year colleges offer business, psychology, and education? Those are the most popular majors in the country.

I would bet $1 million that most SUNY students take out nowhere near $100k in loans. I don't think people realize how difficult it is for dependent students to find that much loan money.

I wasn't talking about students taking business, psychology and education!!!!

I was talking about students taking clinical courses or other technical degrees that they cannot get online and have to attend f2f classes for!!!

As far as I know there aren't any online professional engineering degrees that can be completed online.

And allied health degrees, you need to get at least an associate degree f2f before you can take online classes towards a bachelor or master degree in the field!

And when room and board is as much or more than tuition and fees, as it is at SUNY campuses in NYS, if you attend 4 years with room and board you are easily at $100K in debt at graduation if you didn't get any financial aid.

The fact is that hardly anyone goes $100k in debt attending SUNY schools. If you have data to back that up, then please link. I can go school by school and find the average student loan debt for graduates of SUNY colleges and universities. The only people who go $100k in debt for undergraduate programs are those who are irresponsible. It's also very hard for dependent students to find that much student loan money. The federal government has a very low limit for dependent students, so getting more depends on the parents' creditworthiness. 

There are online engineering programs, but that's beside the point. Most people who attend on campus do not go anywhere near $100k in debt. 

http://www.abet.org/accreditation/new-to...-programs/

Going $50k in debt for an engineering degree is actually not a bad investment. Engineers can easily make six figures after a few years.
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New York May Offer Free Tuition Soon - by yb1 - 04-08-2017, 10:21 PM
New York May Offer Free Tuition Soon - by Ideas - 04-09-2017, 02:07 AM
RE: New York May Offer Free Tuition Soon - by sanantone - 06-17-2018, 09:01 PM

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