ACE Credits

[venominator]

Hey guys, currently I am interested in doing ACE Credits. But it seems that neither the college I am currently in, or the place I plan to transfer (Georgia Perimeter and Georgia State U) accept them.

I did a placement test at GPC and exempted lower level math courses, but I need a couple of them for the degree I need. (Stat and Trig) I was wondering if I could just take the ACE transcript to somewhere that accepts them and transfer them to GSU or GPC?

[rickyjo]

Do you want to use straighterline, ALEKS, Penn Foster, or something else to get these ACE credits? Would I would recommend in your situation is investigating if a Straighterline partner school will transfer to your school of choice. It's basically what you suggested except you bypass ACE entirely. For your desired credits straighterline has business statistics. Would that work? Also can you substitute calc for trig? Anyway assuming one or both would work here is my recommendation:

When you take a straighterline class and implement a partner college instead of ACE it appears on the transcript as if you took the class directly from the partner college, so, if your school of choice will accept the partner college's class, it will also take the straighterline class because it will appear as the partner school's internal class on the transcript. That is how I understand it.

The list of partner schools at straighterline has grown so much it's hard to imagine that your school will not take the class from one of them.

Best of luck to you!

[skyfall123]

I was wondering if I could just take the ACE transcript to somewhere that accepts them and transfer them to GSU or GPC?

No and Yes. No most of the time since most schools that accept ACE Credit for their particular degrees will give pass/fail credit not graded credit, and will notate the ACE Credit on their transcript. For instance TESC transcribes ACE Credit under the category of Assessment Credit as TESC-ACE. So while TESC may give credit for ACE Approved courses, another college that doesn't directly accept ACE Credit isn't going to accept ACE Credit simply because it appears on a TESC transcript, especially when it is transcribed as ACE Credit.

One of the only colleges that has transcribed any ACE Approved Courses as equivalents of their courses (including letter grades) is FHSU. The four (and only four) ACE Approved SL courses are Acct I, Acct II, Macro, and Micro... which doesn't help you at all.

I noticed that GSU also doesn't accept DSST exams. So although Excelsior gives letter grades for certain DSST exams, you couldn't take a DSST exam send it to Excelsior, have them transcribe it and expect GSU to accept it. Again, Excelsior will transcribe it as DSST credit.

[skyfall123]

Do you want to use straighterline, ALEKS, Penn Foster, or something else to get these ACE credits? Would I would recommend in your situation is investigating if a Straighterline partner school will transfer to your school of choice. It's basically what you suggested except you bypass ACE entirely.

The only thing a SL "Partner School" is.....is a college that has told SL that it will accept a limited amount of the SL courses (primarily the ACE Approved) directly toward one of their degree programs. If you research further, you will find that not only do these "Partner Schools" not want you to transfer SL courses in and out of their schools, but that most credit is given as pass/fail and is still transcribed as ACE Credit. One exception is FHSU and the 4 SL courses that it accepts - Acct I, Acct II, Macro and Micro.

Also can you substitute calc for trig?

The SL Calc course is not even ACE Approved.

When you take a straighterline class and implement a partner college instead of ACE it appears on the transcript as if you took the class directly from the partner college, so, if your school of choice will accept the partner college's class, it will also take the straighterline class because it will appear as the partner school's internal class on the transcript. That is how I understand it.

True in the case of FHSU for only 4 SL courses Acct I, Acct II, Macro and Micro. Not true for most "Partner Colleges".

The list of partner schools at straighterline has grown so much it's hard to imagine that your school will not take the class from one of them.

Why would a college that doesn't take ACE Credit directly, accept a transcript from another college that accepts a limited number of ACE Credit courses toward their degree progams, when the transcript clearly shows that the original credit came from ACE Credit courses? Example: TESC (a "Partner School") transcribed my sons SL, Aleks, and Penn Foster credits under ASSESSMENT CREDITS TESC-ACE.



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[rickyjo]

I'm pretty sure many of the partner schools take it raw and then do not delineate straighterline on the transcript. Remember the big controversy at Fort Hays where students wanted to ditch SL? If it was based on the ACE system and clearly delineated on the transcript there would be no controversy. The controversy existed because of the ambiguity concerning where the class was taken. Does my memory fail me?

As for ACE not yet reviewing calculus, doesn't that simply support my position that at least some partner colleges take the credit raw? I'm not sure if any of the big three do, but I'm pretty sure all the original partner colleges did. Don't forget the partner colleges came before ACE, so the system is not based on ACE. SL refers to calc as a "three credit class" so they have some system to convert it into credit that does not require ACE.

I certainly could have misunderstood, but that is how I currently understand the partner college system and I'm 99% sure I'm right.

[rickyjo]

Here we go:
Partner Colleges for Online College Credit - StraighterLine

Most partner colleges have agreed to accept StraighterLine college credits directly. StraighterLine selects Partner Colleges for their rigorous and high quality degree programs as well as for their commitment to individual learners and their needs. All of our Partner Colleges have distance learning options available.

With StraighterLine, you can enroll at one of our Partner Colleges or enroll at any college that awards credit for ACE recommended courses. In either case, you can transfer StraighterLine credits to the college of your choice. You decide. StraighterLine's Course Advisors are here to help you with the process.
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Also when I spoke to Andy he told me that the way to determine if my future school would accept an SL class from a partner school was to ask them if they would take that particular class from that particular partner school, the fact that it came from straighterline was immaterial. That was assuming the ACE system was not implemented. I wound up using the ACE system anyway, but that's what he told me if I hadn't.
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Notice in the very first sentence that it says "most" partner schools. I believe the point of confusion may be that you have experience with a specific school that forces you to use ACE, but most of them should not according to this and what I've heard in the past.

[skyfall123]

Remember the big controversy at Fort Hays where students wanted to ditch SL?

Yes

If it was based on the ACE system and clearly delineated on the transcript there would be no controversy. The controversy existed because of the ambiguity concerning where the class was taken. Does my memory fail me?

The FHSU controversy had to do with the general acceptance of SL courses. Originally they also accepted English I & English II but dropped them shortly after the controversy began.

As for ACE not yet reviewing calculus, doesn't that simply support my position that at least some partner colleges take the credit raw?

There are currently two that accept that SL course for credit in their degree programs, but neither of those will allow a student to transfer those SL courses in, generate a transcript and then send that transcript to another college, which is what you suggested to the OP.

I'm not sure if any of the big three do, but I'm pretty sure all the original partner colleges did.

The Big 3 accept ACE Credit, so if a SL course is ACE approved then they take it. If it is not ACE Approved then they won't. SL Calculus is not ACE Approved and is not currently accepted by any of the Big 3.

Don't forget the partner colleges came before ACE, so the system is not based on ACE.

There are original partner colleges that are long gone. FHSU does take 4 SL courses. Two recent partners take them all, but only if they are used to finish their degree programs (no transcribing SL credit as you were suggesting the OP could do).

SL refers to calc as a "three credit class" so they have some system to convert it into credit that does not require ACE.

They can call it a 6 credit course if they want.

I certainly could have misunderstood, but that is how I currently understand the partner college system and I'm 99% sure I'm right.

You can take SL courses and get various amounts of credit toward the degree programs at the partner colleges, that is true. What you told the OP is that he could take SL courses (specifically Business Statistics and Calculus), transfer them to a SL partner college which would then transcribe the SL courses as the home colleges courses, then he could have that college send the transcript to GSU which would then receive a newly generated transcript from a partner college that showed not SL or ACE Credit, but would show the SL partner colleges equivalent course number, which is incorrect in my experience. The exception is FHSU and the 4 courses Acct I, Acct II, Macro and Micro.

[skyfall123]

Most partner colleges have agreed to accept StraighterLine college credits directly. StraighterLine selects Partner Colleges for their rigorous and high quality degree programs as well as for their commitment to individual learners and their needs. All of our Partner Colleges have distance learning options available.

Most partner colleges have agreed to accept varying amounts of SL credits directly, an important distinction.

With StraighterLine, you can enroll at one of our Partner Colleges or enroll at any college that awards credit for ACE recommended courses.

So far, so good.

In either case, you can transfer StraighterLine credits to the college of your choice. You decide. StraighterLine's Course Advisors are here to help you with the process.

It clearly should, but unfortunately doesn't read.....you can transfer SL credits to the partner college of your choice.

Also when I spoke to Andy he told me that the way to determine if my future school would accept an SL class from a partner school was to ask them if they would take that particular class from that particular partner school, the fact that it came from straighterline was immaterial. That was assuming the ACE system was not implemented. I wound up using the ACE system anyway, but that's what he told me if I hadn't.

This was and is true in the context of the 4 courses that you took Acct I, Acct II, Macro and Micro when transcribed through FHSU, which I have gone out of my way to point out. This is simply not true for other SL courses transcribed through "Partner Colleges". Like I said, TESC a "Partner College" transcribes SL courses as ASSESSMENT CREDIT TESC-ACE. Is GSU going to accept those courses on that transcript? No way.

Notice in the very first sentence that it says "most" partner schools. I believe the point of confusion may be that you have experience with a specific school that forces you to use ACE, but most of them should not according to this and what I've heard in the past.

There is no confusion. You stated to the OP that he could take SL courses (specifically Business Statistics and Calculus) have them sent to a SL "Partner College" which would then produce a transcript for the OP showing the "Partner Colleges" equivalent course which he could then send to GSU and earn credit for. In my experience this is simply not true. The exception is SL Acct I, Acct II, Macro and Micro when transcribed through FHSU.

[rickyjo]

Sorry geezer, sounds like I may have my information wrong. I'm bumping this thread in the hope somebody else will provide more information because if you're right this is news to me.

[targetoncleps]

I am doing my 5 college algebra test starting Friday with ACE. I was trying to find out what the setup for the tests are. I am waiting on Straighterline to finish processing my payment so I can get on. Can anyone help??
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