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(10-23-2025, 01:24 AM)DonDrapper Wrote: I've studied two of them and I think they're very good programs. Although they're in Spanish, they're easy to translate, and I find them comprehensive and professional. They have enough material for 1,600 hours and 64 ECTS credits.
I was also told that after receiving the degree, I can apply for a degree exclusively from CLEA University.
Now that they've lowered the price, they have interesting university programs. http://www.massstercursos.com
What was the additional fee for the "degree exclusively from CLEA University"?
And since it no longer has any mention of being 'titulo propio', does that mean that this is now an official degree with RVOE?
Please do tell us more!
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It would be good to see the transcript.
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(10-23-2025, 03:41 PM)MichaelGates Wrote: I tried to purchase one of the 19 Euro degrees, and it tried to charge my credit card over $2,200 US Dollars.
The original (first) post is from September 19, 2023, at 9:08 PM.
That link no longer works, you need to choose one of the new links for 159 dollars.
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Hi everyone, long time lurker here but have never posted. I saw this thread and looked into this program. I noticed on that an example CLEA diploma (on the masstercursos website) says the CLEA diploma is an unofficial degree. A "titulo propio no oficial de Universidad CLEA". This statement that its an unofficial degree is on the photo of an example diploma. You can find the example diploma on the webpages for the programs
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(10-23-2025, 09:27 PM)thebeckoning Wrote: Hi everyone, long time lurker here but have never posted. I saw this thread and looked into this program. I noticed on that an example CLEA diploma (on the masstercursos website) says the CLEA diploma is an unofficial degree. A "titulo propio no oficial de Universidad CLEA". This statement that its an unofficial degree is on the photo of an example diploma. You can find the example diploma on the webpages for the programs
Because it is not officially recognized by the government education system.Titulo propios are accredited by the university, and not the government, like official degrees are in Spain. There is not really an equivalent in the US system, but they are like post-bachelors professional development programs, somewhat akin to a professional development program, graduate certificate, or first year of graduate studies as some foreign evaluators give them.
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@thebeckoning and @NotJoeBiden
Yes, it is indeed a “título propio no oficial de la Universidad CLEA.” However, what we would like to understand from @DonDrapper is how he obtained another diploma from Universidad CLEA that does not include the “título propio” note at the bottom.
If you look closely at the document (diploma) he provided, you’ll notice it has a completely different layout from the standard título propio format displayed on the Masstercursos website. There is no mention of a "titulo proprio" at the bottom on his document.
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(10-23-2025, 11:27 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: (10-23-2025, 09:27 PM)thebeckoning Wrote: Hi everyone, long time lurker here but have never posted. I saw this thread and looked into this program. I noticed on that an example CLEA diploma (on the masstercursos website) says the CLEA diploma is an unofficial degree. A "titulo propio no oficial de Universidad CLEA". This statement that its an unofficial degree is on the photo of an example diploma. You can find the example diploma on the webpages for the programs
Because it is not officially recognized by the government education system.Titulo propios are accredited by the university, and not the government, like official degrees are in Spain. There is not really an equivalent in the US system, but they are like post-bachelors professional development programs, somewhat akin to a professional development program, graduate certificate, or first year of graduate studies as some foreign evaluators give them.
Once I completed the program, I wrote to them via WhatsApp, and they gave me the contact information for the university agency and the universities. Once I received the certificate from Mastercursos and the universities, I wrote to the email they provided, and they informed me of all the certificates I could apply for, including the exclusive one from CLEA University, which they send with the transcript.
It was very simple. I wrote to the email they provided, and within a few days, I had the exclusive CLEA certificate. They simply asked me to send them the registration number of the certificate Mastercursos sent me and my Mastercurso academic transcript.
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(10-25-2025, 03:59 AM)DonDrapper Wrote: (10-23-2025, 11:27 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: (10-23-2025, 09:27 PM)thebeckoning Wrote: Hi everyone, long time lurker here but have never posted. I saw this thread and looked into this program. I noticed on that an example CLEA diploma (on the masstercursos website) says the CLEA diploma is an unofficial degree. A "titulo propio no oficial de Universidad CLEA". This statement that its an unofficial degree is on the photo of an example diploma. You can find the example diploma on the webpages for the programs
Because it is not officially recognized by the government education system.Titulo propios are accredited by the university, and not the government, like official degrees are in Spain. There is not really an equivalent in the US system, but they are like post-bachelors professional development programs, somewhat akin to a professional development program, graduate certificate, or first year of graduate studies as some foreign evaluators give them.
Once I completed the program, I wrote to them via WhatsApp, and they gave me the contact information for the university agency and the universities. Once I received the certificate from Mastercursos and the universities, I wrote to the email they provided, and they informed me of all the certificates I could apply for, including the exclusive one from CLEA University, which they send with the transcript.
It was very simple. I wrote to the email they provided, and within a few days, I had the exclusive CLEA certificate. They simply asked me to send them the registration number of the certificate Mastercursos sent me and my Mastercurso academic transcript.
How much did you have to pay?
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(10-23-2025, 02:56 AM)DonDrapper Wrote: Once I finished, they told me I could apply for that degree. Once I had the degree from the universities, I sent them a WhatsApp message, and they sent me the contact information for the universities so I could apply for that degree and transcript.
I wrote to this WhatsApp number, if that helps: +34667348828
If you write to them, they'll tell you which degrees you can apply for later. I was offered several degrees. There's an interesting one issued by four universities, although I haven't applied for it yet.
This is very interesting. It isnt from a branch of CLEA in Mexico, but rather a subsidiary in Spain. They give a registration number in Mexico for the CLEA University there, but I don't believe CLEA has RVOE and cannot issue official degrees there. They also do not have registered programs in Spain. Based on that, it looks like it is still a propio, though it doesnt specify it. Would be curious to learn more about this because it seems convoluted.
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(10-25-2025, 08:08 PM)NotJoeBiden Wrote: (10-23-2025, 02:56 AM)DonDrapper Wrote: Once I finished, they told me I could apply for that degree. Once I had the degree from the universities, I sent them a WhatsApp message, and they sent me the contact information for the universities so I could apply for that degree and transcript.
I wrote to this WhatsApp number, if that helps: +34667348828
If you write to them, they'll tell you which degrees you can apply for later. I was offered several degrees. There's an interesting one issued by four universities, although I haven't applied for it yet.
This is very interesting. It isnt from a branch of CLEA in Mexico, but rather a subsidiary in Spain. They give a registration number in Mexico for the CLEA University there, but I don't believe CLEA has RVOE and cannot issue official degrees there. They also do not have registered programs in Spain. Based on that, it looks like it is still a propio, though it doesnt specify it. Would be curious to learn more about this because it seems convoluted.
I wrote to the provided WhatsApp number some days ago to ask about this and was told that they don't have details about the propio vs oficial status of the CLEA-only degree and that they would only send me contact details for CLEA University after I'd completed my hypothetical studies with them. They totally ignored questions about the pricing for the CLEA-only option.
Given the data we have available, my best guess would be that this CLEA-only diploma would still be a propio degree. However, they've removed that language from the document.
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