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Do some Universities/Colleges rate LL Units to/being LL or UL Units differently?
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Do some Universities rate Lower Level units to Upper Level units differently? What I mean is will/are some lower level class taken at the CC level rated to be upper level at some colleges. Our CC is very clear all classes are lower level and it's all they're accredited to offer. However, it's an odd question I know, and I know LL is LL and UL is UL. But, I noticed some identical "introduction" classes at TESC that are upper level in number, but are identical to the lower level classes at my local CC. Im looking at some of the Sociology and Psychology classs and noticed some are identical in name/course to the upper level at TESC. Even the descriptions of the courses are almost identical.

Example:

TESC: PSY-370 Introduction to Social Psychology
370 is Upper Level.

Our CC: PSY 05: Social Psychology
It’s listed as C-ID PSY 170. Lower Level.

PSY 05 - Our CC description:
C-ID: PSY 170

Introduces social relationships, emphasizing interpersonal attraction;
person perception; long-term relationships; prosocial behavior; attitude
formation and changes; and the nature of prejudice, aggression, and
conformity. Research required. Provider approved by the California Board of Registered
Nursing. Provider number CEP2811 for 45 contact hours. (Same course
as SOC 05. Credit will only apply to one) Applies to Associate Degree. Transfer credit: CSU; UC

PSY 370 – TESC description:
This course introduces the field of social psychology, its theories and its research methods and findings.

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Our CC:

THA 04 – History of the Theatre I 3 Units
Prerequisites: None
Class Hours: 3 lecture
C-ID: THTR 113

Explores the major innovations, trends, works, and playwrights in historical
theatrical movements from the beginnings starting with classical Greek and Roman theatre through
the 17th century. Examines the social and political context of specific
dramatic movements and the influences of theatre on culture and society. Applies to
Associate Degree. Transfer credit: CSU; UC

TESC:

History of the Theater I (THA-400)   3.00 s.h.  (Portfolio)

Course Description:
Survey of theater history from the beginnings through the baroque period, via close examination of stylistic evolution and influential socio-cultural factors. Particular emphasis upon the styles of classicism, medieval theatre, neo and popular classical commedia dell-arte and baroque theater.
(Not to be confused with THA 01: Theatre Art Introduction)

(Note: The "baroque" starts in the early 17th century and ends maybe early 18th century)
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#2
Prior to July 2013 TESC would rate some LL CC courses as UL. But the policy has changed since then. All CC courses are now LL by definition. However, these equivalent LL CC courses will usually meet per-requisite requirements for grad school courses.
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#3
A community college can't grant UL credit, so it has no choice but to treat all DSST exams as LL credit. (Yes, I know that a very few community colleges are granting bachelor's degrees which implies those rare few can grant UL credit. That's an exception not really germane to your question.)
63 CLEP Sociology
75 CLEP U.S. History II
63 CLEP College Algebra
70 CLEP Analyzing and Interpreting Literature
68 DSST Technical Writing
72 CLEP U.S. History I
77 CLEP College Mathematics
470 DSST Statistics
53 CLEP College Composition
73 CLEP Biology
54 CLEP Chemistry
77 CLEP Information Systems and Computer Applications
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#4
I see. That makes sense. I’m looking at the courses offered to see what everyone has. I noticed very little art classes are offered. Makes me wonder if someone wanted to major in “Music” or “Art History” and transferred in all their LW or AA degree in that field, but lack any UL credits. How they would get the upper level credits when just about no classes are offered. Degrees like Music, Dance, or Theatre can’t always be tested out, and in fact TESC has no testing out options for upper level classes in the “Fine Arts”. Seems to be mostly Business/Economics or Sociology/Psychology focused.

I see TESC has portfolios, but I believe that is only if you have life experience or “work experience certification” in order to take those course, and not “Independent reach study…can write ten papers on the subject and almost teach it myself”. Unless I’m wrong. There’s a course at TESC I would LOVE to take called “THA 323: Hisory of Broadway Plays” but its portfolio only.

I’m actually looking too for someone I know personally that is also interested in returning to get her BA in “Fine Arts”. BA in Fine Art. But like myself can’t take courses a the local colleges because she works.
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#5
Adam's State College offers many affordable self-paced humanities options. Undergraduate - Distance Learning - Adams State University

I haven't taken classes through them but others on here have.
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