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EC UL: coopersmith and Genesis
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Hi friends, I am looking at earning upper level credits for my BSLA degree at Excelsior through Coopersmith and or Genesis. Has anyone done this and did you have issues getting any 300+ courses to come in as Upper Level? Some on the site say LL OR UL. That concerns me. Thanks.
Me: Earned BSLA at Excelsior November 2021!

My son Tor (15 yrs): 
CLEPS passed: US Hist 1, A&I Lit, College Composition, Intro to Sociology, US Hist 2, Western Civ 1
College Courses taken: Astronomy, Intro to Programming, Latin 1,  Federal GOVT
ACE passed via Sophia: Human Biology, College Algebra, Intro to Statistics, Religion, Visual Communications, Intro to Relational Databases, Intro to Business, 
Currently Working on: Calc 1, TX GOVT
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(07-04-2020, 11:57 AM)TorsMama Wrote: Hi friends, I am looking at earning upper level credits for my BSLA degree at Excelsior through Coopersmith and or Genesis. Has anyone done this and did you have issues getting any 300+ courses to come in as Upper Level? Some on the site say LL OR UL. That concerns me. Thanks.

I took a number of UL Coopersmith courses which were accepted by EC.  I had originally wanted to take MAR330 Principles of Sales, and MAN390 Managerial Communications from Davar, since it would have cost only $99 for both.  However, even though they were approved by NCCRS as UL, EC only accepts them as LL.

As a result of that, I ran all of my Coopersmith courses past my advisor, who either approved them or checked with a specialist for approval.  While none of the 300-level courses I selected were rejected, I did ask about Fundamentals of Fitness FIT101, since it is NCCRS approved for UL, but it was rejected.

Based on my experience I would definitely recommend running any course selections past an EC advisor, in the absence of an equivalency guide and/or agreement.
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(07-04-2020, 01:34 PM)ctcarl Wrote:
(07-04-2020, 11:57 AM)TorsMama Wrote: Hi friends, I am looking at earning upper level credits for my BSLA degree at Excelsior through Coopersmith and or Genesis. Has anyone done this and did you have issues getting any 300+ courses to come in as Upper Level? Some on the site say LL OR UL. That concerns me. Thanks.

I took a number of UL Coopersmith courses which were accepted by EC.  I had originally wanted to take MAR330 Principles of Sales, and MAN390 Managerial Communications from Davar, since it would have cost only $99 for both.  However, even though they were approved by NCCRS as UL, EC only accepts them as LL.

As a result of that, I ran all of my Coopersmith courses past my advisor, who either approved them or checked with a specialist for approval.  While none of the 300-level courses I selected were rejected, I did ask about Fundamentals of Fitness FIT101, since it is NCCRS approved for UL, but it was rejected.

Based on my experience I would definitely recommend running any course selections past an EC advisor, in the absence of an equivalency guide and/or agreement.

I agree.  Don't waste your time or money, get the info BEFORE you take courses/exams.

The reason TESU is so popular here is because we have so many people reporting on how courses came in for different degrees there.  The more people that report, the more people take those courses and get the degree there, the more they have to report, and the cycle goes on.  Once people decide to use a different school (like EC or COSC) and report back on how things come in there, that can start a cycle as well, making it easier to get the degree there, etc.

One nice thing that TESU does is give course equivalency numbers to every course they bring in, making it extremely easy to figure out in advance what will work and what won't.  EC and COSC don't give those for every course, so it's definitely more difficult to figure things out.
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(07-05-2020, 01:37 AM)dfrecore Wrote:
(07-04-2020, 01:34 PM)ctcarl Wrote:
(07-04-2020, 11:57 AM)TorsMama Wrote: Hi friends, I am looking at earning upper level credits for my BSLA degree at Excelsior through Coopersmith and or Genesis. Has anyone done this and did you have issues getting any 300+ courses to come in as Upper Level? Some on the site say LL OR UL. That concerns me. Thanks.

I took a number of UL Coopersmith courses which were accepted by EC.  I had originally wanted to take MAR330 Principles of Sales, and MAN390 Managerial Communications from Davar, since it would have cost only $99 for both.  However, even though they were approved by NCCRS as UL, EC only accepts them as LL.

As a result of that, I ran all of my Coopersmith courses past my advisor, who either approved them or checked with a specialist for approval.  While none of the 300-level courses I selected were rejected, I did ask about Fundamentals of Fitness FIT101, since it is NCCRS approved for UL, but it was rejected.

Based on my experience I would definitely recommend running any course selections past an EC advisor, in the absence of an equivalency guide and/or agreement.

I agree.  Don't waste your time or money, get the info BEFORE you take courses/exams.

The reason TESU is so popular here is because we have so many people reporting on how courses came in for different degrees there.  The more people that report, the more people take those courses and get the degree there, the more they have to report, and the cycle goes on.  Once people decide to use a different school (like EC or COSC) and report back on how things come in there, that can start a cycle as well, making it easier to get the degree there, etc.

One nice thing that TESU does is give course equivalency numbers to every course they bring in, making it extremely easy to figure out in advance what will work and what won't.  EC and COSC don't give those for every course, so it's definitely more difficult to figure things out.
True. I wish EC was more simple to figure out. But they accepted 48 of my film school credits and not a single other school would, which is why I am going with them.
Me: Earned BSLA at Excelsior November 2021!

My son Tor (15 yrs): 
CLEPS passed: US Hist 1, A&I Lit, College Composition, Intro to Sociology, US Hist 2, Western Civ 1
College Courses taken: Astronomy, Intro to Programming, Latin 1,  Federal GOVT
ACE passed via Sophia: Human Biology, College Algebra, Intro to Statistics, Religion, Visual Communications, Intro to Relational Databases, Intro to Business, 
Currently Working on: Calc 1, TX GOVT
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Excelsior appears to be telling me:

1. They can give me no information on what UL classes can transfer in until I am working with an advisor.

2. That in order to use financial Aid I need to take 6 credit hours in one semester with them. Sad I was hoping to only need Info Lit, Cornerstone, and Capstone. Obviously I cannot take Capstone until it's the last class I do. 

3. To work with an Advisor and get my degree plan, I need to be enrolled. 

Basically, I am up a creek without a paddle. SO disappointing. If they could just tell me which UL courses would transfer in, I would try to knock them out and then be able to take all 7 credits I NEED at Excelsior. I have no idea what to do now. I am almost inclined to just take the Coopersmith classes I want and risk it later.
Me: Earned BSLA at Excelsior November 2021!

My son Tor (15 yrs): 
CLEPS passed: US Hist 1, A&I Lit, College Composition, Intro to Sociology, US Hist 2, Western Civ 1
College Courses taken: Astronomy, Intro to Programming, Latin 1,  Federal GOVT
ACE passed via Sophia: Human Biology, College Algebra, Intro to Statistics, Religion, Visual Communications, Intro to Relational Databases, Intro to Business, 
Currently Working on: Calc 1, TX GOVT
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(07-07-2020, 05:28 PM)TorsMama Wrote: Excelsior appears to be telling me:

1. They can give me no information on what UL classes can transfer in until I am working with an advisor.

2. That in order to use financial Aid I need to take 6 credit hours in one semester with them. Sad I was hoping to only need Info Lit, Cornerstone, and Capstone. Obviously I cannot take Capstone until it's the last class I do. 

3. To work with an Advisor and get my degree plan, I need to be enrolled. 

Basically, I am up a creek without a paddle. SO disappointing. If they could just tell me which UL courses would transfer in, I would try to knock them out and then be able to take all 7 credits I NEED at Excelsior. I have no idea what to do now. I am almost inclined to just take the Coopersmith classes I want and risk it later.

At EC, the semester has 3 segments to it. There's the 15 week set of courses. There are also 2 8 week segments that run back to back. You absolutely CAN complete your Cornerstone, Capstone, and Info Lit in 1 semester. Cornerstone and Info Lit in Term A and Capstone in Term B all in the same semester.

In my experience there, the advisors aren't great. Mine never knows the answers to my questions and takes a wee or two to get back to me. She won't use email either so there's not paper trail which is frustrating for me.
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(07-07-2020, 05:35 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(07-07-2020, 05:28 PM)TorsMama Wrote: Excelsior appears to be telling me:

1. They can give me no information on what UL classes can transfer in until I am working with an advisor.

2. That in order to use financial Aid I need to take 6 credit hours in one semester with them. Sad I was hoping to only need Info Lit, Cornerstone, and Capstone. Obviously I cannot take Capstone until it's the last class I do. 

3. To work with an Advisor and get my degree plan, I need to be enrolled. 

Basically, I am up a creek without a paddle. SO disappointing. If they could just tell me which UL courses would transfer in, I would try to knock them out and then be able to take all 7 credits I NEED at Excelsior. I have no idea what to do now. I am almost inclined to just take the Coopersmith classes I want and risk it later.

At EC, the semester has 3 segments to it. There's the 15 week set of courses. There are also 2 8 week segments that run back to back. You absolutely CAN complete your Cornerstone, Capstone, and Info Lit in 1 semester. Cornerstone and Info Lit in Term A and Capstone in Term B all in the same semester.

In my experience there, the advisors aren't great. Mine never knows the answers to my questions and takes a wee or two to get back to me. She won't use email either so there's not paper trail which is frustrating for me.

Yes but I can't take the Capstone UNTIL I have all my other UL requirements transfers in, right? It has to be last. And I can't take those until I KNOW which UL Coopersmith classes are accepted. Unless some kind soul can give me insight on here as to what Coopersmith classes should transfer in UL, I feel like I don't have a choice but take some random $$$ class at Excelsior just to have financial aid pay for it and the Cornerstone and Info Lit.
Me: Earned BSLA at Excelsior November 2021!

My son Tor (15 yrs): 
CLEPS passed: US Hist 1, A&I Lit, College Composition, Intro to Sociology, US Hist 2, Western Civ 1
College Courses taken: Astronomy, Intro to Programming, Latin 1,  Federal GOVT
ACE passed via Sophia: Human Biology, College Algebra, Intro to Statistics, Religion, Visual Communications, Intro to Relational Databases, Intro to Business, 
Currently Working on: Calc 1, TX GOVT
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(07-07-2020, 05:46 PM)TorsMama Wrote:
(07-07-2020, 05:35 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(07-07-2020, 05:28 PM)TorsMama Wrote: Excelsior appears to be telling me:

1. They can give me no information on what UL classes can transfer in until I am working with an advisor.

2. That in order to use financial Aid I need to take 6 credit hours in one semester with them. Sad I was hoping to only need Info Lit, Cornerstone, and Capstone. Obviously I cannot take Capstone until it's the last class I do. 

3. To work with an Advisor and get my degree plan, I need to be enrolled. 

Basically, I am up a creek without a paddle. SO disappointing. If they could just tell me which UL courses would transfer in, I would try to knock them out and then be able to take all 7 credits I NEED at Excelsior. I have no idea what to do now. I am almost inclined to just take the Coopersmith classes I want and risk it later.

At EC, the semester has 3 segments to it. There's the 15 week set of courses. There are also 2 8 week segments that run back to back. You absolutely CAN complete your Cornerstone, Capstone, and Info Lit in 1 semester. Cornerstone and Info Lit in Term A and Capstone in Term B all in the same semester.

In my experience there, the advisors aren't great. Mine never knows the answers to my questions and takes a wee or two to get back to me. She won't use email either so there's not paper trail which is frustrating for me.

Yes but I can't take the Capstone UNTIL I have all my other UL requirements transfers in, right? It has to be last. And I can't take those until I KNOW which UL Coopersmith classes are accepted. Unless some kind soul can give me insight on here as to what Coopersmith classes should transfer in UL, I feel like I don't have a choice but take some random $$$ class at Excelsior just to have financial aid pay for it and the Cornerstone and Info Lit.

I was told by my advisor that I CAN take the Capstone once all of the program requirements are met. So like I'm a BS in business major. I need to have completed ALL of the business courses required then I can take Capstone. My gen eds do not needed to be completed. Now whether or not my advisor was right, who knows. 

EC isn't your only option. There's always TESU and COSC. TESU is actually looking like a much better fit and deal for me than EC. It's took bad this is such a complicated process!
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(07-07-2020, 05:56 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(07-07-2020, 05:46 PM)TorsMama Wrote:
(07-07-2020, 05:35 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(07-07-2020, 05:28 PM)TorsMama Wrote: Excelsior appears to be telling me:

1. They can give me no information on what UL classes can transfer in until I am working with an advisor.

2. That in order to use financial Aid I need to take 6 credit hours in one semester with them. Sad I was hoping to only need Info Lit, Cornerstone, and Capstone. Obviously I cannot take Capstone until it's the last class I do. 

3. To work with an Advisor and get my degree plan, I need to be enrolled. 

Basically, I am up a creek without a paddle. SO disappointing. If they could just tell me which UL courses would transfer in, I would try to knock them out and then be able to take all 7 credits I NEED at Excelsior. I have no idea what to do now. I am almost inclined to just take the Coopersmith classes I want and risk it later.

At EC, the semester has 3 segments to it. There's the 15 week set of courses. There are also 2 8 week segments that run back to back. You absolutely CAN complete your Cornerstone, Capstone, and Info Lit in 1 semester. Cornerstone and Info Lit in Term A and Capstone in Term B all in the same semester.

In my experience there, the advisors aren't great. Mine never knows the answers to my questions and takes a wee or two to get back to me. She won't use email either so there's not paper trail which is frustrating for me.

Yes but I can't take the Capstone UNTIL I have all my other UL requirements transfers in, right? It has to be last. And I can't take those until I KNOW which UL Coopersmith classes are accepted. Unless some kind soul can give me insight on here as to what Coopersmith classes should transfer in UL, I feel like I don't have a choice but take some random $$$ class at Excelsior just to have financial aid pay for it and the Cornerstone and Info Lit.

I was told by my advisor that I CAN take the Capstone once all of the program requirements are met. So like I'm a BS in business major. I need to have completed ALL of the business courses required then I can take Capstone. My gen eds do not needed to be completed. Now whether or not my advisor was right, who knows. 

EC isn't your only option. There's always TESU and COSC. TESU is actually looking like a much better fit and deal for me than EC. It's took bad this is such a complicated process!
EC accepts 48 of my film schoolcredits. No other college Will. ? I am going for a BS in liberal arts. It is not clear what I need to do for upper level. Gosh I wish it were!
Me: Earned BSLA at Excelsior November 2021!

My son Tor (15 yrs): 
CLEPS passed: US Hist 1, A&I Lit, College Composition, Intro to Sociology, US Hist 2, Western Civ 1
College Courses taken: Astronomy, Intro to Programming, Latin 1,  Federal GOVT
ACE passed via Sophia: Human Biology, College Algebra, Intro to Statistics, Religion, Visual Communications, Intro to Relational Databases, Intro to Business, 
Currently Working on: Calc 1, TX GOVT
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Oh bummer. I have a ton of culinary school credits and they're useless in the rest of the world so I feel your pain.
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