ENEB Master Thread

[eLearner]

This was WES Response:

WES converts study completed abroad into comparable U.S. semester credits. The number of credits on our evaluation reports corresponds to the normal credit load carried by a student enrolled in a similar program in the United States.
 
Using this approach WES allocates approximately 30 semester credits for each year of full-time study in a foreign education program. The credit conversion factor can be described mathematically as the target number of US credits divided by the total number of units required in the foreign education program.
We have reviewed your report and confirmed that it is correct. We would like to emphasize that WES evaluations are advisory opinions and not binding upon any institution or organization.
 
Sincerely,
 
Director of Evaluations

Thanks for sharing that information!

Yeah, these evaluators sure have a way with words to defend their decisions and at least that one is not as convoluted as the one ECE gave. Still, shaving credits is baloney if it means shaving off something vital just to fit a rigid parameter. These organizations need to remember that they're not simply dealing with numbers, they're dealing with people's lives and often times the ultimate direction of those lives based on the evaluations they deliver.

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I'm not sure the word "degree" exists anywhere on Eneb. But that is neither here nor there - I did not check. Eneb has legitimacy in Spain for what he does. I spent a great deal of time completing Eneb's master's courses. To assess foreign credentials, some institutions will prescribe individual evaluators; others don't care. In one of my experiences, ACE was the prescribed, then in another experience, WES was the prescribed. I think I had an evaluation for about a year, just for curiosity, and it returned non-accredited. Away the board knew, but it was ignored because WES is the problem for many of us here. I was a little rude after waiting because I didn't want the new members to be misled by a one-sided debate, in my view. (So my apology for being rude or dismissive to some). The new argument for Eneb is that employers don't care about accreditation-but we know that this is not true - it can get you to fire if that is the only credential you have or the credential that you got you hired.

From what I've seen, some schools there don't put the word "degree" (licenciatura) on the diploma while others do: https://www.etitulo.com/en/about/

On the accreditation part, I agree that the employers who know about accreditation and/or care accreditation will make a deal of it. The question is, how many know or care? With so many people with fake degrees getting jobs every day (LinkedIn is filled with them) I tend to think that worrying about how an employer will view a legitimate degree is not worth the energy drain. With foreign degrees my position is (if one has any concern) to get an FCE done, and then make a decision from there on what to do with the degree. It's not expected that the individual will openly disclose the accreditation status of their program except for where there should be a moral obligation like when a person has a fake degree, but in that case if the person has a fake degree and is trying to pass it off he/she isn't very moral to begin with.