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Help with degree plan for my 17 year old
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Hi schlocker!

I just wanted to encourage you that your 17 year old daughter can do it. My 19 year old daughter is about to graduate after she finishes her last class from TESU (the Business Capstone.) I had two other sons complete their degree just last year. You will get a lot of great advice here, and I just wanted to let you know it can be done. In order to register @ 18 she had to complete her RA credits first. Everything seemed to take a long time to get approved too. She took courses from a local Christian college that was RA. She took the speech and psych and any other of her major courses that were lower level in order to get a feel for going to a real college. I was so glad we had that done already before applying.

We did a lot of CLEP and SDC since it was easier to stay with the same formats. I would encourage using SDC since they offer more courses, and you would stay with the same format. My kids liked the videos on SDC and the materials much better than the way Davar seemed to be set up. Search for coupons for SDC too. If you decide to set up, I may have one that works if it isn't expired. There are a few floating around when she signs up. They can only be used when you first join so wait to sign up. We took Managerial Comm. (quite easy), International Business, and 4 upper level Marketing courses. This chart really helps, but check with an advisor to add a course to your plan because things constantly change and sometimes dates expire. https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html Do try for every point on the quizzes. They can be quite easy. Sometimes, the grades on the papers can be quite weird, but they can be redone three times if necessary.

If you are doing several papers, especially once you start the final 2 courses @ TESU, I would suggest investing in "Grammarly." It helps with checking over all punctuation and word choices. It makes things so much easier to check, but my kids still checked over things and found most of their own errors because Grammarly isn't perfect, but very close.

When you start @ TESU, check out a website called "Rate My Professor." It will give opinions on the best professors @ TESU. You can also search names here too. Just keep in mind that the Capstone paper is very different from all the other papers. From what I read, it is much easier since they offer a choice of 3 topics for you for the BSBA degree.

My final suggestion would be to pay the residential fee. It would be very difficult unless you are super together to take that much all at once. My grown sons had their hands full with just the Capstone especially when we all caught COVID at the end of it. Even with the residential fee, you will not find any other college degree that inexpensive.

Hope all that helps!!
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(02-13-2022, 06:21 PM)Dorothy44 Wrote: Hi schlocker!  

I just wanted to encourage you that your 17 year old daughter can do it.  My 19 year old daughter is about to graduate after she finishes her last class from TESU (the Business Capstone.)  I had two other sons complete their degree just last year.  You will get a lot of great advice here, and I just wanted to let you know it can be done.  In order to register @ 18 she had to complete her RA credits first.  Everything seemed to take a long time to get approved too.  She took courses from a local Christian college that was RA.  She took the speech and psych and any other of her major courses that were lower level in order to get a feel for going to a real college.  I was so glad we had that done already before applying.  

We did a lot of CLEP and  SDC since it was easier to stay with the same formats.  I would encourage using SDC since they offer more courses, and you would stay with the same format.  My kids liked the videos on SDC and the materials much better than the way Davar seemed to be set up.  Search for coupons for SDC too.  If you decide to set up, I may have one that works if it isn't expired.  There are a few floating around when she signs up.  They can only be used when you first join so wait to sign up.  We took Managerial Comm. (quite easy), International Business, and 4 upper level Marketing courses.  This chart really helps, but check with an advisor to add a course to your plan because things constantly change and sometimes dates expire.  https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html  Do try for every point on the quizzes.  They can be quite easy.  Sometimes, the grades on the papers can be quite weird, but they can be redone three times if necessary.

If you are doing several papers, especially once you start the final 2 courses @ TESU, I would suggest investing in "Grammarly."  It helps with checking over all punctuation and word choices.  It makes things so much easier to check, but my kids still checked over things and found most of their own errors because Grammarly isn't perfect, but very close.

When you start @ TESU, check out a website called "Rate My Professor."  It will give opinions on the best professors @ TESU.  You can also search names here too.  Just keep in mind that the Capstone paper is very different from all the other papers.  From what I read, it is much easier since they offer a choice of 3 topics for you for the BSBA degree.  

My final suggestion would be to pay the residential fee.  It would be very difficult unless you are super together to take that much all at once.  My grown sons had their hands full with just the Capstone especially when we all caught COVID at the end of it.  Even with the residential fee, you will not find any other college degree that inexpensive.  

Hope all that helps!!
Hi Dorothy,

Thanks for taking the time to write this. She completed six RA classes at TEL/York college. She will complete two more this month and next. Did your daughter take eight or ten RA classes before applying for a waiver? 

24 classes completed and 16 remaining. She will apply for a waiver in August on her birthday. She takes her time and does very well on the essays. Coupons sound great. I'll start looking in April. With 16 classes left she hopes to finish May 2023. I'm leaning to SDC but Davar and CLEP are tempting. Managerial Comm. sounds good. I will post an update after she finishes a few more classes.

Thanks again.

(02-12-2022, 02:12 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: I would do a mix of CLEP/MS (if you're near a testing center or online - if you're OK with ProctorTrack's history), Davar (review slides and then an exam), and Study.com if you're OK with assignments for their upper level courses.

Thank you. I had not thought of CLEP/MS. We are not near a testing center but online might work. Thanks again for the summary. Was leaning to SDC but might do a combination.
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If my memory is correct, I think she had 30 RA credits before applying, but I think she only needed 24. She wanted some voice credits so we had some extra. The process was great for her because we did dual enrollment, and it was much cheaper! A special TESU advisor that works with younger students first collected her RA transcripts, and then we had to get that sent somewhere else to start her degree plan. She had 30 credits of CLEP and maybe 30 with Sophia, but that wasn't necessary.
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(02-13-2022, 09:37 PM)Dorothy44 Wrote: If my memory is correct, I think she had 30 RA credits before applying, but I think she only needed 24.  She wanted some voice credits so we had some extra.  The process was great for her because we did dual enrollment, and it was much cheaper!  A special TESU advisor that works with younger students first collected her RA transcripts, and then we had to get that sent somewhere else to start her degree plan.  She had 30 credits of CLEP and maybe 30 with Sophia, but that wasn't necessary.

Thank you. She has 72 credits now and will have 90 when she turns 18 and applies for a waiver at TESU. Fingers crossed.
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schlocker Wrote:Thank you. She has 72 credits now and will have 90 when she turns 18 and applies for a waiver at TESU. Fingers crossed.

What Dorothy44 meant was for your daughter to verify she has 30 RA credits (or will finish with that number). She should have at least 24 RA credits when she applies to TESU. It's great she currently has 72 credits total and will hit 90 or more when she turns 18, but the main point is, 24 RA credits and the two required courses to finish the remaining credits to 30. If you get more than 30, that's fine as well...
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(02-18-2022, 11:44 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote:
schlocker Wrote:Thank you. She has 72 credits now and will have 90 when she turns 18 and applies for a waiver at TESU. Fingers crossed.

What Dorothy44 meant was for your daughter to verify she has 30 RA credits (or will finish with that number).  She should have at least 24 RA credits when she applies to TESU.  It's great she currently has 72 credits total and will hit 90 or more when she turns 18, but the main point is, 24 RA credits and the two required courses to finish the remaining credits to 30.  If you get more than 30, that's fine as well...

Thanks BJ. She has 18 RA credits now and will have 24 RA credits in April. She methodically goes through the entire RA course in about a month and gets good grades. Will post again in July when she has a few more classes completed.
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Here is an update as of April.2022. 75 credits completed, 21 are RA credits. Will apply for a waiver at TESU in August 2022 on 18th birthday. BSBA in Entrepreneurship is the current goal. Goal is to have 114 credits by December and start the Capstone/Cornerstone in January. Graduate June 2023.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

Remaining classes:

Capstone
Cornerstone

ACC-102 Managerial Accounting
MAN-101 Principles of Management
Business 102 Principles of Marketing
BUS 210 Quantitative Skills for Business CSM Learn
MAN-390 Managerial Communications
MAN 330 International management
MAN 230 Introduction to Entrepreneurship (may not be necessary)
Finance 306 Small Business Finance
Marketing 301 Marketing Research
Business 106 Human resources management
Business 309 Digital Marketing & Advertising
Business 315 Logistics & Supply Chain Management

BUS 1203 Introduction to Business and Entrepreneurship (RA) York College

Kind assistance and encouragement from forum user is appreciated very much.
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(04-10-2022, 07:05 AM)schlocker Wrote: Here is an update as of April.2022. 75 credits completed, 21 are RA credits. Will apply for a waiver at TESU in August 2022 on 18th birthday. BSBA in Entrepreneurship is the current goal. Goal is to have 114 credits by December and start the Capstone/Cornerstone in January. Graduate June 2023.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

Remaining classes:

Capstone
Cornerstone

ACC-102 Managerial Accounting
MAN-101 Principles of Management
Business 102 Principles of Marketing
BUS 210 Quantitative Skills for Business CSM Learn
MAN-390 Managerial Communications
MAN 330 International management
MAN 230 Introduction to Entrepreneurship (may not be necessary)
Finance 306 Small Business Finance
Marketing 301 Marketing Research
Business 106 Human resources management
Business 309 Digital Marketing & Advertising
Business 315 Logistics & Supply Chain Management

BUS 1203 Introduction to Business and Entrepreneurship (RA) York College

Kind assistance and encouragement from forum user is appreciated very much.

MAN-390 Managerial Communications
MAN 330 International management

You need 1 UL class not 2 for professional requirements.  Business 120: International Business will work and will be quicker since there are no papers.
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Did you subscribe to Study.com yet? If not, I would get the CSM Learn course done first. You may want to take Davar courses over Study.com until you are done with courses through them.

Example BALS/BSBA Double Degree using 5 TECEPS as of Jan 2021: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

Davar courses will come in as the following:
The two courses with *, the content doesn't really match the exams, skip these two.

CIS-301 Management Information Systems
ACC-301 Managerial Accounting
FIN-301 Principles of finance
*FIN-311 Corporate Finance
FIN-334 International Finance
MAN-372 International Management
MAN-273 Managerial Communications
*MAN-210 Principles of Management
MAR-310 Principle of Sales

Gen Ed Link: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ts_Roadmap
Business Core: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...re_Roadmap
AOS Link: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan
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(04-10-2022, 08:33 AM)LevelUP Wrote:
(04-10-2022, 07:05 AM)schlocker Wrote: Here is an update as of April.2022. 75 credits completed, 21 are RA credits. Will apply for a waiver at TESU in August 2022 on 18th birthday. BSBA in Entrepreneurship is the current goal. Goal is to have 114 credits by December and start the Capstone/Cornerstone in January. Graduate June 2023.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

Remaining classes:

Capstone
Cornerstone

ACC-102 Managerial Accounting
MAN-101 Principles of Management
Business 102 Principles of Marketing
BUS 210 Quantitative Skills for Business CSM Learn
MAN-390 Managerial Communications
MAN 330 International management
MAN 230 Introduction to Entrepreneurship (may not be necessary)
Finance 306 Small Business Finance
Marketing 301 Marketing Research
Business 106 Human resources management
Business 309 Digital Marketing & Advertising
Business 315 Logistics & Supply Chain Management

BUS 1203 Introduction to Business and Entrepreneurship (RA) York College

Kind assistance and encouragement from forum user is appreciated very much.

MAN-390 Managerial Communications
MAN 330 International management

You need 1 UL class not 2 for professional requirements.  Business 120: International Business will work and will be quicker since there are no papers.

Thank you. So take Business 120, International business instead of Man 330?

(04-10-2022, 09:29 AM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Did you subscribe to Study.com yet?  If not, I would get the CSM Learn course done first.  You may want to take Davar courses over Study.com until you are done with courses through them.  

Example BALS/BSBA Double Degree using 5 TECEPS as of Jan 2021: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

Davar courses will come in as the following:
The two courses with *, the content doesn't really match the exams, skip these two.

CIS-301 Management Information Systems
ACC-301 Managerial Accounting
FIN-301 Principles of finance
*FIN-311 Corporate Finance
FIN-334 International Finance
MAN-372 International Management
MAN-273 Managerial Communications
*MAN-210 Principles of Management
MAR-310 Principle of Sales

Gen Ed Link: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ts_Roadmap
Business Core: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...re_Roadmap
AOS Link: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan
CSM is 90% completed. I have no experience with Davar classes. Was considering using study.com because of the good reviews but I'm open to suggestions. I'll look at the spreadsheet also. Thank you.
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