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Simran Wrote:Thanks for the quick reply and the great advice .
I am definitely planning to do my BS but for now I am looking to get Associate degree online ,get a job and then pursue bachelor degree part time .
The associate degree I was focussing on was indeed "Associate in Science in Applied Science and Technology (ASAST) " that requires 60 (and not 69) credits (ASAST Degree in Computer & Information Technology | Thomas Edison State University) . Given this information - what is the best path I should take - Should I go to TESU and register and then start looking at CLEP ? or I should start knocking down courses one by one and register later on.
Also I'm aware that I have to do algebra and Physics 1&2 as a pre requisite for this .So that is something I can start on now,maybe
Please advice me if I'm on the wrong path as I'm clueless and any proper direction towards my journey of education will be immensly useful .keep up the good work.
This is just my advice, you can take it for what it's worth: if I were you, I would not get this degree in particular unless you really need it. It is one of the more expensive Associates degrees, because of both the Capstone requirement ($1500), the residency waiver ($2000) and the courses you're going to have to take via a more expensive option than testing out (Data Structures & Operating Systems).
I personally would go with a general AA at COSC; or if you really want to at TESU, you can do an AA in General Studies or an ASBA - neither of which require a capstone, but still require the $2000 residency waiver.
An AA in General Studies will get you everything you need to transfer to a BA/BS later on, but cost the least because you can test out of every course.
You just need to compare to see if the cornerstone plus all of the fees at COSC are more or less expensive than the cornerstone plus residency waiver at TESU ($300 + $2000). I'm guessing yes, but not completely sure as I don't know a lot about COSC's fees. TESU having that residency waiver is a larger burden on AA/AS students, since it's a much larger percentage of the total cost of the degree. I don't think it's worth it at this point.
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I'm in agreement with dfrecore here. I have 20+ years industry experience myself and can likely mount a successful PLA challenge against courses like Data Structures, Operating Systems, C and C++ programming, and a bunch more -- yet even I went the ASBA route instead of the ASAST. The ASBA is just cheaper and has many more options for alternative credit through SL and other avenues.
If you want to transition on to a BS afterwards, the BSBA/CIS is similarly positioned vs. the BSAST/IT for example.
For employment purposes, it's more important that you have the degree than which degree it is. The ASAST isn't going to be any more valuable in the market than the ASBA, and same goes for the BSAST vs. BSBA.
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Maybe it's my personal bias against general studies degrees, but I don't see the point in the OP earning one. I think there are better options. If the OP just happened to stop at the associate's for a little while, the AA or AS in General Studies or Liberal Studies would be the most worthless associates for employment purposes.
ASNSM in Computer Science - It requires no capstone. The degree is more flexible than the ASAST. The credits can be used later for a BSBA in CIS, BSAST in IT, BSAST in Technical Studies, or BA in Computer Science.
ASBA - There is no capstone. The credits can be used later in a BSBA in CIS.
AAS in Computer Studies - It does have a capstone, but the degree is extremely flexible and test-friendly. Depending on which tests/courses you choose to use, the credits can later go toward a BSBA in CIS, BSAST in IT, BSAST in Technical Studies, or BA in Computer Science.
cjtheo Wrote:Would it be hard landing a job If I obtained a BSBA in HR management with 0 HR experience?
From my experience, it's hard to break into HR without a business or HR degree.
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For employment purposes, it's more important that you have the degree than which degree it is. The ASAST isn't going to be any more valuable in the market than the ASBA, and same goes for the BSAST vs. BSBA. I don't see how anyone can make assertions like this without knowing what sort of employment the OP is considering.
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davewill Wrote:I don't see how anyone can make assertions like this without knowing what sort of employment the OP is considering.
He's considering employment in the IT field I assume, or he wouldn't be focusing on the ASAST / CIT. I can assure you that in this field, there is no practical difference between them.
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Thanks for all the amazing help till now .
I am planning to pursue the ASNSM Comp Sci from TESU and I've got this awesome link that maps some of the courses I have to take with CLEP . My questions are :-
Looking at Knowledge of Human Cultures ,I can choose either Humanities or Social Sciences. Does it help or hamper which individual courses I can choose ?
I am like very close to selecting some 100 level courses in social sciences .
I need 9 credits in "Civic and Global Learning" module out of which 3 credits are required in Ethics subject . and I don't see anything listed under that subject that I can take from CLEP. Any ideas how I can approach that - This link gives me the legit courses for that module but not from CLEP .
I see a module called Mathematics in the ASNSM program but don't see any courses listed under Mathematics module in the list of courses available here . Can I pick one from "Quantitative Literacy" and will it count towards the 3 credits required for Mathematics module .?
Thanks for all the help you all have provided till now . This is a awesome forum. Keep up the noble work that you all are doing ...
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With an AA/AS, you don't need any UL credits, so choose whichever CLEP exams you'd like to take.
Ethics can't be done via CLEP, but it can by DSST. Or you can take the free Ethics course here: Preserve the trust on which insurance transactions are based with an understanding of ethics
Math is anything above Beginning Algebra. I would recommend taking ALEKS math, you can take Intermediate Algebra, College Algebra, Precalculus and Statistics for $20/mo.
It seems like you are limiting yourself to CLEP exams, and I'm not sure why. There are DSST exams, Saylor courses/exams for $25, Straighterline, ALEKS, study.com, etc. Don't limit yourself to CLEP and DSST exams unless you are in the military and get to take free exams.
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@OP- also if you know any languages other than English you can take various exams (NYU, ACTFL, etc.) and earn up to 12 credits from just the one exam. The CLEP core exams (Humanities, Natural Sciences, Social Sciences & History, and College Math) can earn you 6 credits from each exam. Those are all good ones to start with.
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dfrecore Wrote:With an AA/AS, you don't need any UL credits, so choose whichever CLEP exams you'd like to take.
Ethics can't be done via CLEP, but it can by DSST. Or you can take the free Ethics course here: Preserve the trust on which insurance transactions are based with an understanding of ethics
Math is anything above Beginning Algebra. I would recommend taking ALEKS math, you can take Intermediate Algebra, College Algebra, Precalculus and Statistics for $20/mo.
It seems like you are limiting yourself to CLEP exams, and I'm not sure why. There are DSST exams, Saylor courses/exams for $25, Straighterline, ALEKS, study.com, etc. Don't limit yourself to CLEP and DSST exams unless you are in the military and get to take free exams.
Thanks for the response.The reason I thought CLEP will be a good place to start is because I started off working on a study plan by looking at one of the existing plan laid down by someone in another thread but then quickly realized that I'm missing something . Please bear with me while I try to explain .
This one example below was shown in the plan.
" POS-110 CIVIC ENGAGEMENT - American Government 3 SL $100 "
which I translated as " Civic Engagement is a course that can be taken from straighterline and get evaluated for 100$ for acquiring 3 credits " and when I searched at straighterline.com -I'm not able to locate that course . I spent a good 2 hours scratching my head to "get it right" which is when I stumbled on this link CLEP - College-Level Exam Program that maps the courses I need to take with with what's available on CLEP .
Hence I am leaning towards CLEP. With the time crunch I'm in ,I'm more worried that I might spend time on some course that is actually not a requirement for my Associate degree. With the TESU-CLEP mapping -I'm certain the courses I'm taking will help me earn much needed credits. Just some newbie jitters or I'm not doing it right.
Many thanks for your tip on College Algebra - I'm looking at that right now
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