Residency waiver concern

[Personherebb9]

As on my signature my end goal by TESU is the following qualifications:
BA CS & English
BSBA (undecided major/(s))
AS Math & CS
AS (undecided)
and I'll probably throw on a couple of certs while I'm at it such as CIS.

At the moment, I might consider doing a residency waiver instead of doing a 16 credit term. The reason for that is, I'm concerned that I'll struggle to maintain so many classes for a 3 month duration, while working full-time. (Especially considering how that will affect my GPA)

Since I'm firstly doing Finnish courses, I doubt that I'll need anymore RA credits. So theoretically I could just complete the final few courses and then just do the capstones by TESU.
It's unclear to me whether or not I just have to do one capstone, or multiple for every major, but even then 3 classes are much better than 5/6.

I saw you can take the SOS course through edx for considerably cheaper, so I might enroll myself for that instead. However the question I have, would I have to pay a residency waiver for every qualification or is it a once off fee? 

(This isn't really relevant but thought I might ask)
My english major will definitely be the HARDEST degree to get credits for, however do yall know of any other credits for the ENG major outside of what is listed on the wiki? Many of the wiki eng courses are either very expensive or not available for international students or are not confirmed to be able to transfer.

I'm planning on taking the upper level eng lit course as an e-pack (cant remember the name). So that's one UL requirement out of the way, but I'll need a lot more than that...

[davewill]

It's a single fee...in the right situations.

If you graduate the degrees all at the same time, it will definitely be one fee. Supposedly, the residency waiver is good for a year, but I can't think of the last time we had anyone on here test that, or even ask about it, so the policy could have changed. That's something that TESU is good at.

[bjcheung77]

The residency fee is good for the first Associates and includes the first Bachelors. So, you can graduate with 2 Associates and 2 Bachelors at the same time to maximize the residency fee and graduation fees. Another option is to do the 16 credits residency, so you can get the residency completed for the first two associates and first bachelors, you just pay another grad fee, capstone fee for the second bachelors. One more thing to note is, the 24 new credits required after the first bachelors, it can't be completed 'during' your first bachelors...

[dfrecore]

The residency waiver will count for a single graduation session of a bachelor's degree, or an AA and then a BA within a year. If you get all of your degrees at the same time, you will only pay for the RW once.

Keep in mind that if you get a BSBA and a BA in CompSci and BA in English, you'll have to do 2 capstones (1 for the BSBA and one for the dual-major BA).

With ONU no longer an option, that removes 1 UL English course that was cheap (ENG 300 - Thematic Studies in Literature). Using SDC, and Coopersmith, you can get almost everything else; you're just left with 1 UL elective, and 1 LL elective.

Possibilities:

BYU Independent Study ($675/course) - THESE ARE BEST BETS
ENGL 317R: Writing Creative Nonfiction
ENGL 319R: Writing Poetry
ENGL320R: Writing for Children and Adolescents
ENGL384R: Author Studies (Shakespeare)
ENGL386R: British Literature before 1800
ENGL389R: American Literature 1800-1865
ENGL420: Young Adult Literature
WRTG312: Persuasive Writing
WRTG315: Writing in the Social Sciences

Oklahoma State University Individual Study ($689/course)
ENGL3333C: Short Story
ENGL4723c: Studies in Shakespeare
U of Arkansas Self-Paced Online ($165/cr=$495/course)
JOUR4333: Ethics in Journalism

U of Idaho Independent Study ($160/cr=$510/course)
Engl 313: Business Writing (may not work in the major)
Engl 317: Technical Writing (prob duplicates SDC course)

Louisiana State University Online Distance Learning ($866/course)
ENGL 3593: Survey of Women & Literature

[tpell1219]

I paid the residency waiver fee. Ended up graduating with a dual BSBA healthcare management and HROM. I also earned two associates: AA in arts and AS in business administration. I have zero regrets!

[Kab]

Question: this means you have to graduate and then do the 24 credits (whics give a one year time) or you can finish all the credits of the first bachelor, finish it without graduating, but not adding more credits, and then doing the 24 credits and graduating at the same time of both?

The residency fee is good for the first Associates and includes the first Bachelors. So, you can graduate with 2 Associates and 2 Bachelors at the same time to maximize the residency fee and graduation fees. Another option is to do the 16 credits residency, so you can get the residency completed for the first two associates and first bachelors, you just pay another grad fee, capstone fee for the second bachelors. One more thing to note is, the 24 new credits required after the first bachelors, it can't be completed 'during' your first bachelors...

[Personherebb9]

The residency fee is good for the first Associates and includes the first Bachelors.  So, you can graduate with 2 Associates and 2 Bachelors at the same time to maximize the residency fee and graduation fees.  Another option is to do the 16 credits residency, so you can get the residency completed for the first two associates and first bachelors, you just pay another grad fee, capstone fee for the second bachelors.  One more thing to note is, the 24 new credits required after the first bachelors, it can't be completed 'during' your first bachelors...

As far as I understand, the residency waiver covers one graduation period within 1 year. So in other words, theoretically, if I graduate with all my chosen diplomas at the exact same graduation, I would only have to pay one residency waiver?

If that's the case. I can essentially transfer in all courses for:
BA CS & ENG except for Liberal arts capstone (3 crs)
BSBA (undecided major/(s)) except buss capstone (3 crs)
Then the AS Math & CS requires no extra classes nor an extra capstone so I can transfer in everything.
ASBA (while redundant, it ensures that I don't have to do another capstone)
CIS cert (all required courses will be completed so it's essentially free.)

Meaning I would only need to do 1 term, with 2 capstone courses (6 crs) and then pay the residency fee waiver?
As mentioned before I'm not concerned about RA credits nor overlap in AOS credits, since I'll be doing a minimum of 24 RA credits through XAMK/Metropolia and a few other RA courses, since that's really my only option for English AOS.

(Note: I will be doing the Information Literacy course through edx, hence why I didn't put that down as something that needs to be completed through TESU.)

Am I misunderstanding something or does this sound correct? 
Since I won't "graduate" with a degree, the rule of "doing completely new 24 credits" shouldn't apply right?

Thank you for the advice.

[bjcheung77]

Question: this means you have to graduate and then do the 24 credits (whics give a one year time) or you can finish all the credits of the first bachelor, finish it without graduating, but not adding more credits, and then doing the 24 credits and graduating at the same time of both?

You have two scenarios, 1) you graduate at the same time with two bachelors degrees - there isn't a 24 new credit requirement for the second degree AOs, you can complete the remaining 24, 18, or less, however many left you are required to do for the two degrees. You just need to make sure both degree requirements are met, then graduate together with one residency fee and one graduation fee.

2) If you graduate the first bachelors, you pay the residency & grad fee. You need to have at minimum 24 new credits towards the second degree completed after conferral, not before or during. So, you can't do any AOS courses otherwise you'll have to redo them. The fee isn't 1 year, 12 or 15 months any longer, from reading their newest fees page, it's any time you get the second degree.

One thing to note is, you pay the difference in the residency fee if there are any, X years later when you get the second bachelors. So for instance, it's $3288 residency fee this year. If it changes to $3388 next year, you pay the $100 difference, along with the graduation fee for your second degree, and any remaining courses/fees. Link: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/fees

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As far as I understand, the residency waiver covers one graduation period within 1 year. So in other words, theoretically, if I graduate with all my chosen diplomas at the exact same graduation, I would only have to pay one residency waiver? 

Yes, people get this confused, so let it stay at 12 months (technically, it's 15 but to be on the safe side, make sure to be done before the 12 months, have some buffer space).

Meaning I would only need to do 1 term, with 2 capstone courses (6 crs) and then pay the residency fee waiver? 

Yes, just doing the two capstone courses and paying the residency fee is exactly what I recommend for those who want the least amount of TESU courses.

(Note: I will be doing the Information Literacy course through edx, hence why I didn't put that down as something that needs to be completed through TESU.)

Am I misunderstanding something or does this sound correct?  That's correct, no issues so fart...
Since I won't "graduate" with a degree, the rule of "doing completely new 24 credits" shouldn't apply right?  Yes, correct.

[dfrecore]

I will be doing the Information Literacy course through edx, hence why I didn't put that down as something that needs to be completed through TESU.

Info Lit is the cornerstone, and is required at TESU.  You can't transfer it in from anywhere else.  So add that to your costs.

[Personherebb9]

I will be doing the Information Literacy course through edx, hence why I didn't put that down as something that needs to be completed through TESU.

Info Lit is the cornerstone, and is required at TESU.  You can't transfer it in from anywhere else.  So add that to your costs.

TESU offers a microbachelors through edx at around $500. It transfers in as Tesu's SOS110 course. 
Find the link here:
https://www.edx.org/microbachelors/tesu-...tocomplete


So it is possible to transfer in SOS110, meaning the only thing I'd have to do through TESU is my capstones
"Liberal Arts Capstone"
"Business Capstone"