TESC Straighterline Microbiology transcribed as LL

[sanantone]

Microbiology has always been iffy. For a while they have automatically listed community college Micro as LL and 4-year university Micro as UL, EVEN IF the 4-year university class had a 200 level title. Not to hate on SL, but they're not even a college, I've been wondering why they got something that the CCs didn't even get. My micro was through a CC, and I'd considered retaking it with SL just for that purpose. Obviously not going to now, but this doesn't shock me that much.

I actually don't think that's strange considering that all CC courses are now automatically LL. TESC has long bumped courses from 4-year schools up to UL if they were similar to an UL course they offered. So far, ACE and NCCRS credits have not gotten the CC treatment. In the grand scheme of things, even though TESC does not follow ACE recommendations, many ACE courses are evaluated as UL. Hardly any, if any, college will give UL credit for courses transferred from CCs because they are inherently taught at the LL.

Edit: I didn't get to finish because I had to do something. If the argument is that SL courses should not be granted UL credits because SL is not a college, then the same line of thinking would have to be applied to all ACE-evaluated courses and tests. That would defeat the purpose of ACE evaluation because its purpose is to evaluate college-level learning obtained outside of colleges. The most important things are course content and level of difficulty. CC courses are inherently LL in those respects.

[cookderosa]

I actually don't think that's strange considering that all CC courses are now automatically LL. TESC has long bumped courses from 4-year schools up to UL if they were similar to an UL course they offered. So far, ACE and NCCRS credits have not gotten the CC treatment. In the grand scheme of things, even though TESC does not follow ACE recommendations, many ACE courses are evaluated as UL. Hardly any, if any, college will give UL credit for courses transferred from CCs because they are inherently taught at the LL.

Edit: I didn't get to finish because I had to do something. If the argument is that SL courses should not be granted UL credits because SL is not a college, then the same line of thinking would have to be applied to all ACE-evaluated courses and tests. That would defeat the purpose of ACE evaluation because its purpose is to evaluate college-level learning obtained outside of colleges. The most important things are course content and level of difficulty. CC courses are inherently LL in those respects.

I'm on board with CC classes automatically being LL. That's intuitive, you'll never find me arguing someones CC class should be UL.
As to why SL gets UL for micro? I have no idea. How TESC credits SL is going to depend on their ACE eval, and being evaluated as UL by ACE isn't very common. I've got no dog in this fight, but it's just very curious to me.

[Hunter91]

I had this same dilemma. I took micro with lab at CC, it transferred as LL to TESC, so I decided to take it again through SL to get UL credit for it. Had Straighterline send my transcripts with micro, business ethics, intro to religion, and anthro. Saw the other courses fill up spots in my eval, got pretty busy, and didn't notice that TESC completely ignored the micro sent from SL. They disregarded it, and never added it to my transcript (my thinking was maybe they saw I already had a micro course and just threw the extra one away). Called SL, and confirmed that they did indeed include micro in the transcript sent so I don't know what happened on TESCs end. Long story short, I overlooked it, needed one more UL course, and ended up having to take another UL course when the micro I took through SL should have filled the last spot. I don't think I'm going to argue it because the 4 unit micro in my eval fits good in the spot its in, and if I replace it with the 3 unit one (UL or not) I think the credit distribution will be a little wacky.

Lesson: make sure every class is accounted for lol!

[cookderosa]

I had this same dilemma. I took micro with lab at CC, it transferred as LL to TESC, so I decided to take it again through SL to get UL credit for it. Had Straighterline send my transcripts with micro, business ethics, intro to religion, and anthro. Saw the other courses fill up spots in my eval, got pretty busy, and didn't notice that TESC completely ignored the micro sent from SL. They disregarded it, and never added it to my transcript (my thinking was maybe they saw I already had a micro course and just threw the extra one away). Called SL, and confirmed that they did indeed include micro in the transcript sent so I don't know what happened on TESCs end. Long story short, I overlooked it, needed one more UL course, and ended up having to take another UL course when the micro I took through SL should have filled the last spot. I don't think I'm going to argue it because the 4 unit micro in my eval fits good in the spot its in, and if I replace it with the 3 unit one (UL or not) I think the credit distribution will be a little wacky.

Lesson: make sure every class is accounted for lol!

hunter- you should for sure have them re-evaluate. SL Micro should count for you. You might have to tell them to take OFF the CC micro. I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking you're right and it's coming up as a duplicate (which it is) but since they duplicate with DIFFERENT numbers, getting that LL number off there might help TESC how to do this for you.

[sanantone]

Whenever TESC forgets to put a course on your evaluation, you should always contact them. Don't waste money on another course until you find out if they overlooked a transcript or course. They make mistakes all the time.