TESU second BS confusion

[EllisGrant]

I am two tests away from completing my BSBA in General Management, I would also like to pick up at BSAST in Technical Studies which I will then be two general ed courses and the capstone away from. Will they really make me do an additional 24 credits? I have over 150 semester hours completed. The quote below seems to say I will, I know I should be asking advising but I thought maybe someone else had a favorable experience.

Any thoughts?

Thanks, Ellis



"Second Bachelor’s Degree
If you have earned a previous bachelor’s degree, and wish to pursue a second, you must complete a minimum of 24 additional credits in the area of study/core beyond the date your most recent bachelor’s degree was completed. You must also complete all the degree requirements indicated in the Thomas Edison State University Catalog.

If you have earned your first bachelor’s from the University, you must apply again for the second degree, however, your application fee is waived. Whether you earned your first bachelor’s degree at the University or at another institution, the application process still requires an academic evaluation of your transferred credit with room for at least 24 credits relative to your area of study. "

[Flelm]

Yes, absolutely you will need to do another 24 credits. This is why I'm completing my BSAST first and my BSBA second.

EDIT: And your 24 credits will need to be all technical classes (in your core/AoS). You can't just complete another 24 credits of Gen. Ed.

[dfrecore]

It doesn't matter how many credits you have overall, what's important is which credits you have. Just like the fact that you have 150cr, but they're not going to give you a BSBA just because you have a lot of credits - you have to take the specific credits required by the degree you're trying to earn. When you go for the BSAST, you have to get the credits they want for that degree as well, and they're particular about which ones they are.

And they are very specific about a second degree, there's no getting around the requirements.

You may want to switch the order and complete the BSAST first, and then go back to the BSBA. That's normally an easier second degree than the BSAST. If you do the BSAST second, you will have to take 24cr, and they are normally harder to find.

[Flelm]

If he's only 2 tests away from the BSBA though, he may not have left himself enough room to maneuver.

[dfrecore]

If he's only 2 tests away from the BSBA though, he may not have left himself enough room to maneuver.

I think he could probably retake the exams he had already taken, and just replace them with new exams. It doesn't say that they have to be unique (never before taken) credits, just that they have to be earned after conferral date. For example, after conferral of the BSAST, go through Saylor and take the 6 core business courses needed. Then sign up for Study.com and take some there. Take the rest at SL. He could get done really quickly doing that.

Also, can you get a degree at EC or COSC at the same time that you're getting a BSAST at TESU? Not sure if there are any rules against that or not, but that might be a better option. A BSBA at EC or COSC, and a BSAST at TESU.

Edited: Just found this at COSC: https://www.charteroak.edu/prospective/a...degree.cfm

[davewill]

Also, I'm pretty sure the second 24cr must all be taken after the first bachelor's is awarded, so you can't use any of the credits you've already earned, even if they weren't used to fulfill the first one. You can't earn any of the 24cr until after the first degree is actually awarded. The other route would be double major, but you have to do the two majors within a single degree so you'd do a BSBA in Finance and CIS for example. The 24cr rule wouldn't apply. However, I recall someone saying that the General Management AOS can't be combined with anything else.

[EllisGrant]

The BSBA was easiest for me to do with the residency policy and now that it is complete I probably don't have any wiggle room. I have all of the technical components complete and there really are not any other sources for my particular field. Hmmm, too bad they won't allow the completion of two degrees simultaneously. I'll give them a call, or better yet send an email and get in writing.

Thanks,

Ellis

[Flelm]

I think he could probably retake the exams he had already taken, and just replace them with new exams. It doesn't say that they have to be unique (never before taken) credits, just that they have to be earned after conferral date. For example, after conferral of the BSAST, go through Saylor and take the 6 core business courses needed. Then sign up for Study.com and take some there. Take the rest at SL. He could get done really quickly doing that.

That's an interesting idea. I never thought about doing that.

[cookderosa]

I think he could probably retake the exams he had already taken, and just replace them with new exams. It doesn't say that they have to be unique (never before taken) credits, just that they have to be earned after conferral date. For example, after conferral of the BSAST, go through Saylor and take the 6 core business courses needed. Then sign up for Study.com and take some there. Take the rest at SL. He could get done really quickly doing that.

Also, can you get a degree at EC or COSC at the same time that you're getting a BSAST at TESU? Not sure if there are any rules against that or not, but that might be a better option. A BSBA at EC or COSC, and a BSAST at TESU.

Edited: Just found this at COSC: https://www.charteroak.edu/prospective/a...degree.cfm

Hummm....so you don't think duplication will create an objection?

[davewill]

Hummm....so you don't think duplication will create an objection?

They would almost have to allow it. There are only so many AOS courses in most majors.