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What do you think about ChatGPT?
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(03-02-2023, 10:49 AM)kidneysmasher Wrote: Fair warning a lot of schools have already started using AI detection for essays and papers, this includes WGU and Sophia. I am an adjunct at UofPeople and they use it as well.

My son used it to write an essay for English Comp 1 on Sophia and they returned it with a zero for having high use of AI.

If using it, I would recommend rewritng it so it sounds human. Chat GPT uses robotic terminology and certain repetitive writing patterns that are detectable, also for the same topic it will use the the sources over and over again. Which makes it easier to detect.

However, AI is detecting AI so as it gets more "training" it will be harder to detect. around and around it goes.

Those tools are far from accurate and shouldnt be used in this manner.
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In my "forum post + 3 replies" weekly homework, there´s a student that has been checking every post, and has been posting the "100% similarity" or "written entirely by AI" in a lot of them, and sometimes he is also posting the screenshots of the results.

He is using these two:

https://www.zerogpt.com/
https://app.gptzero.me/login
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(04-21-2023, 02:20 AM)MrPanda Wrote: In my "forum post + 3 replies" weekly homework, there´s a student that has been checking every post, and has been posting the "100% similarity" or "written entirely by AI" in a lot of them, and sometimes he is also posting the screenshots of the results.

He is using these two:

https://www.zerogpt.com/
https://app.gptzero.me/login

Well, so much for keeping things on the DL.

There are usually a few characters on the forums, that's for sure. Lol.
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(04-21-2023, 03:55 AM)LevelUP Wrote:
(04-21-2023, 02:20 AM)MrPanda Wrote: In my "forum post + 3 replies" weekly homework, there´s a student that has been checking every post, and has been posting the "100% similarity" or "written entirely by AI" in a lot of them, and sometimes he is also posting the screenshots of the results.

He is using these two:

https://www.zerogpt.com/
https://app.gptzero.me/login

Well, so much for keeping things on the DL.

There are usually a few characters on the forums, that's for sure. Lol.

The teacher didn´t know what he was talking about, and asked: "Please explain?", and he wrote a text with references to explain it to him.
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(04-21-2023, 02:20 AM)MrPanda Wrote: In my "forum post + 3 replies" weekly homework, there´s a student that has been checking every post, and has been posting the "100% similarity" or "written entirely by AI" in a lot of them, and sometimes he is also posting the screenshots of the results.

He is using these two:

https://www.zerogpt.com/
https://app.gptzero.me/login


I found this interesting.  

So, I grabbed one of my old discussion posts from my last class.  The Zerogpt site told me my post was 13.62% written by gpt.  I can guarantee you it was not.  The topic involved comparing Target to Amazon and Wal-Mart.  I mentioned how Amazon just has you take the item to the UPS store, and they box it up for you.  It claimed that it was written by AI, among a few other basic sentences in my post.  

I tried a few others.  One post came back 9% and another 19%.  The 19% did say it was most likely human written.  If these tools are used, we need a precise acceptable percentage.  

ON THE FLIP SIDE...  I pasted in a response that I got directly from CHAT GPT... It told me it was 32.58% written by GPT and said, "most likely human written."

So, reliance on this tool could lead to a lot of problems.
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I've definitely heard of similar results. The AI detection stuff is just not very good. It's very bad at being able to tell real AI stuff from stuff written by an actual human.
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I just got 0% AI with my forum entry in that networking course.

Maybe my weird way of writing helps to get 0% scores :-D
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don't know about these services in particular, but most of the AI checkers report the likelihood of AI content, not the amount of AI content. So for example 9% - 19% reported here would be completely acceptable as that's almost certainly not AI.

Also keep in mind most of these tools were built based on GPT3, and GPT4 is light-years more advanced.
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A smart student will use Chat GPT as a tool and a lazy student will depend on it.
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(05-03-2023, 10:41 PM)stevesofia Wrote: A smart student will use Chat GPT as a tool and a lazy student will depend on it.

Exactly. I've been using ChatGPT as a research tool. In particular to help me find citations for papers. There was a very obvious leap forward in this capability when GPT-4 was released two months ago. It's also a really good grammar and spellchecker. I honestly don't see how companies like Grammarly will survive now that ChatGPT exists for free.

I also use it in some volunteer work that I do for a non-profit, to tighten up the word count on print materials, emails, and blog posts. It's really good at reformulating paragraphs. I just use the prompt, "Rewrite the following paragraph to be under 150 words," for example, and it provides excellent output. I usually have to tweak a few words, as sometimes a concept gets lost or mangled when certain words drop, but it lets me do a task in two minutes that used to take me 15-20 minutes.

Honestly, I see it rapidly becoming just as important of a tool for knowledge workers as other software is. Just like accountants have to be Excel wizards, despite all the great specialized software that exists in the accounting industry, I see these text-based AI tools becoming just as important. You can already find books on Amazon about how to write better AI prompts, and I assure you that the likes of Coursera and universities will very soon have courses on the same, if they don't already.
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