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clarification on "major / minor"
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(07-03-2019, 06:12 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(07-03-2019, 11:57 AM)udi Wrote: [quote pid='291793' dateline='1562171048']
(07-03-2019, 10:57 AM)udi Wrote: You don't tell people what you have a minor in generally.

Certainly you would list the minor on your resume. If you don't tell anyone, what's the point of doing it?

There are two reasons why I would not. The question was regarding referencing an associate's degree as a minor. Technically, it's different, but depending on the circle, it's more nuanced and people often say their associate's subject is their minor.

I've not actually heard of anyone doing this - ever.  Obviously, this is lying.

I worked in HR for many years, and no one has ever said they had a minor, we checked, and they didn't and it was an AA/AS.  Never.

I don't think people do this.  It's not a thing.
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Thanks for clarifying, Dfrecore (and all)!

Since you bring up HR, could there any incentive (albeit very little) to having computer science (even at an assoc degree level) on a resume so that it's caught by ATS's? I know it's a very small point in the larger picture we are painting here, just trying to see it from all potential angles.

Thanks!

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(07-03-2019, 06:37 PM)CarpeDiem8 Wrote:
(07-03-2019, 06:12 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(07-03-2019, 11:57 AM)udi Wrote: [quote pid='291793' dateline='1562171048']
(07-03-2019, 10:57 AM)udi Wrote: You don't tell people what you have a minor in generally.

Certainly you would list the minor on your resume. If you don't tell anyone, what's the point of doing it?

There are two reasons why I would not. The question was regarding referencing an associate's degree as a minor. Technically, it's different, but depending on the circle, it's more nuanced and people often say their associate's subject is their minor.

I've not actually heard of anyone doing this - ever.  Obviously, this is lying.

I worked in HR for many years, and no one has ever said they had a minor, we checked, and they didn't and it was an AA/AS.  Never.

I don't think people do this.  It's not a thing.


Thanks for clarifying, Dfrecore (and all)!

Since you bring up HR, could there any incentive (albeit very little) to having computer science (even at an assoc degree level) on a resume so that it's caught by ATS's? I know it's a very small point in the larger picture we are painting here, just trying to see it from all potential angles.

Thanks!

D Smile
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Completely depends on the job you're going for.
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#13
(07-03-2019, 06:12 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(07-03-2019, 11:57 AM)udi Wrote: [quote pid='291793' dateline='1562171048']
(07-03-2019, 10:57 AM)udi Wrote: You don't tell people what you have a minor in generally.

Certainly you would list the minor on your resume. If you don't tell anyone, what's the point of doing it?

There are two reasons why I would not. The question was regarding referencing an associate's degree as a minor. Technically, it's different, but depending on the circle, it's more nuanced and people often say their associate's subject is their minor.

I've not actually heard of anyone doing this - ever.  Obviously, this is lying.

I worked in HR for many years, and no one has ever said they had a minor, we checked, and they didn't and it was an AA/AS.  Never.

I don't think people do this.  It's not a thing.
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It's not lying if you think your associate's degree is your minor. It's just a mistake. I don't investigate whether minors aren't actually associate's degrees, but I have seen the mistake made and wouldn't jump to think someone was lying for doing so.
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I have completed a BALS (Psych.) & ASNSM (Math). What would my major be? LS+Psych.?
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(07-04-2019, 04:41 AM)Supermind Wrote: I have completed a BALS (Psych.) & ASNSM (Math). What would my major be? LS+Psych.?

Your BALS degree is a Bachelor of Arts. Your Major is in Liberal Studies. Your Concentration is in Psychology. I could see someone referring to their concentration as a Minor.

For the ASNSM, the degree is Associate of Science. The major is in Natural Science and Mathematics. Mathematics is considered an emphasis or option area for the AS degree.
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(07-04-2019, 04:55 AM)Merlin Wrote:
(07-04-2019, 04:41 AM)Supermind Wrote: I have completed a BALS (Psych.) & ASNSM (Math). What would my major be? LS+Psych.?

Your BALS degree is a Bachelor of Arts. Your Major is in Liberal Studies. Your Concentration is in Psychology. I could see someone referring to their concentration as a Minor.

For the ASNSM, the degree is Associate of Science. The major is in Natural Science and Mathematics. Mathematics is considered an emphasis or option area for the AS degree.
Thanks Merlin.
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(07-04-2019, 04:55 AM)Merlin Wrote:
(07-04-2019, 04:41 AM)Supermind Wrote: I have completed a BALS (Psych.) & ASNSM (Math). What would my major be? LS+Psych.?

Your BALS degree is a Bachelor of Arts. Your Major is in Liberal Studies. Your Concentration is in Psychology. I could see someone referring to their concentration as a Minor.

For the ASNSM, the degree is Associate of Science. The major is in Natural Science and Mathematics. Mathematics is considered an emphasis or option area for the AS degree.

In the case of the ASNSM, I do not think it is correct to say, Natural Science and Mathematics is the major. ASNSM is an abbreviation for the actual name of the degree conferred. The full unabbreviated name appears on the diploma. TESU does not list the AOS/major on their diplomas.

This is exactly the same as a BSBA again an abbreviation of the actual name of the degree conferred, Business Administration would likewise not be considered the AOS/major.
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(07-03-2019, 10:52 AM)CarpeDiem8 Wrote: Sorry for the n00b question, but I'm curious and the internet doesn't have any info on this. 

Those of you that are pursuing BA in X with an Associates in X (like I am considering) would one declare this is as the same as when you say you have a "major in X / minor in X?" 

Thanks for clarifying!

D Smile

not the same -- minors require upper level credits  
but an associates would be all lower level 

https://www.math.lsu.edu/ugrad/requirements#minors

https://catalog.dsu.edu/preview_program....urnto=1298

as for telling people, yes, there are some combinations where you're applying for a particular job and you'd definitely want to tell about your minor

major in computer science
minor in finance 

major in biology 
minor in computer science 

major in elementary education 
minor in art (or spanish)
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#19
Ok thanks, All! Since TESU doesn’t offer minors, I wasn’t sure!

Thanks!
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#20
(07-03-2019, 10:52 AM)CarpeDiem8 Wrote: Sorry for the n00b question, but I'm curious and the internet doesn't have any info on this. 

Those of you that are pursuing BA in X with an Associates in X (like I am considering) would one declare this is as the same as when you say you have a "major in X / minor in X?" 

Thanks for clarifying!

D Smile

Unfortunately, there are no guidelines for what distinguishes a major, minor, concentration, area of study, or such.
Colleges and universities have their own in-house categories and names.
The easiest thing to know is that almost every bachelor's degree will have some portion of credits "in" something - roughly 25%. So, when you're looking for a degree, if you WANT a degree that offers many classes in something, make sure it offers that option (no matter what the name is).

When you graduate and list it on your resume, you'll want to do it according to your school, but know that employers aren't always super dialed in, especially to the nuances of degrees. So, they may ask for a "major" in X or Y - don't think that if yours is an "Area of Study" or "Concentration" that you're excluded. People use the term as a catch-all to mean that you took a bunch of classes in something.
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