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RE: ENEB - exams - GameSlinger - 12-23-2023
(12-23-2023, 01:04 PM)nykorn Wrote:(12-23-2023, 05:09 AM)kylan11 Wrote: Real quick, how does that work? You enroll, wait for the exam option to pop up, take it and 2 hours later you now have an MBA + Masters? Full diploma mill style?
Enroll, wait 1-3 months, pay for exam option, wait another 1-3 months to take exam, wait another 2-6 weeks for final exam grades to get inputted into your gradebook (which is odd in and of itself, it means they MUST be checking it over by hand despite using Moodle), wait another 2-6 months to get diploma. As for the exam, the only way you could pass it without having actually read the materials is by "cheating".
Passing a class solely by an exam option doesn't make something a diploma mill - as others have said many times, this was the historical standard for college for hundreds of years (going anywhere from 1-6 years without setting foot at the school, and then just taking a graduation exam) which is still essentially true at some institutions including at some accreditted and historically respected American and European schools. The "diploma mill" problem is really about the difficulty level of the test itself.
As for the difficulty level of the Exams, there is no chance that someone with no previous history or specific knowledge of the subjects would pass these tests. I have taken my MBA/Masters Business and Corporate Communications exam twice now. Both exams took the full 2 hours, and I scored a 70 and a 74 two weeks apart. I have 36 years of work history including several years in management and training fields. I also traded stocks on the side for about a decade so paid attention to a lot of the business related information. 20 years in the logistics field did not help much either for the logistics section. There is a lot of very detailed and specific information that is on the exams. It's not a just wing in type of exam for most people, so definitely not a diploma mill situation. Had I taken a couple months to study for this, which is what I suggest for most people, I should have been able to get in the 90 range, but still don't think I could get a 100% without cheating.
RE: ENEB - exams - nykorn - 12-23-2023
(12-23-2023, 06:46 PM)GameSlinger Wrote: As for the difficulty level of the Exams, there is no chance that someone with no previous history or specific knowledge of the subjects would pass these tests. I have taken my MBA/Masters Business and Corporate Communications exam twice now. Both exams took the full 2 hours, and I scored a 70 and a 74 two weeks apart. ...
Yeah. As a test of this, I originally took a bunch of the module/section quizzes before ever reading the chapters. I averaged at 30-40% (a failing grade) for subjects I had never studied before, and only even got that high because some questions are just common sense ("A good manager shouldn't shout at employees" level of common sense) or they accidentally reveal the answer in the question (Q: "What is a... that has a simple structure..." A: "A simple structure"). My grade was higher (more like a 70-80% average) for subjects I had studied before elsewhere at another school 3-4 years ago and still remembered.
Speaking of the module/section quizzes, I'm going through all of them again now to try and raise my course grade to an A after taking the exam and getting a B. It seems like the final exam took one question from every 3 or so module quizzes. I'm sure they added in a few unique questions too. Once I get my final exam grades in I'll report back on how much my grade was affected by the module quizzes versus the exam.
RE: ENEB - exams - ProReader - 12-24-2023
Anyone tried getting the exam style evaluated? I.e. do international agencies evaluate the degree the same as the traditional route?
RE: ENEB - exams - Wowbagger - 12-24-2023
(12-24-2023, 12:32 PM)ProReader Wrote: Anyone tried getting the exam style evaluated? I.e. do international agencies evaluate the degree the same as the traditional route?
It takes about 75 days after you do the exam for your digital diploma to be issued. So there are not a lot of people who have received theirs yet via the exam route. I'm expecting to get mine end of January 2024 and will be getting the evaluation / validation done. Will report the results here when I have an answer.
RE: ENEB - exams - Max007 - 12-25-2023
(12-23-2023, 01:04 PM)nykorn Wrote: Enroll, wait 1-3 months, pay for exam option, wait another 1-3 months to take exam, wait another 2-6 weeks for final exam grades to get inputted into your gradebook (which is odd in and of itself, it means they MUST be checking it over by hand despite using Moodle), wait another 2-6 months to get diploma.
Is the cycle truly that long? I'm very close to pulling the trigger. However, I had no idea full completion could potentially be this long, from enrollment to reception of diploma. Not that it would deter me, just curious.
RE: ENEB - exams - bjcheung77 - 12-25-2023
For me, when I purchased an extra couple of Masters from them, my earliest date for exams was April! (6 months after my purchase, as per my post #5). I emailed them recently, and they've since bumped that to 'anywhere from Feb 12 to June 30' as per my last post #56. I haven't done any of the 'exam' options yet, I may want to give it a try for the ones that I haven't started on... I think if you do the exam, it may take up to two months or more to get them.
RE: ENEB - exams - nykorn - 12-25-2023
(12-25-2023, 01:29 AM)Max007 Wrote:(12-23-2023, 01:04 PM)nykorn Wrote: Enroll, wait 1-3 months, pay for exam option, wait another 1-3 months to take exam, wait another 2-6 weeks for final exam grades to get inputted into your gradebook (which is odd in and of itself, it means they MUST be checking it over by hand despite using Moodle), wait another 2-6 months to get diploma.
Is the cycle truly that long? I'm very close to pulling the trigger. However, I had no idea full completion could potentially be this long, from enrollment to reception of diploma. Not that it would deter me, just curious.
Yes, it's that long, but based on what I've read both on this site and on the campus forums at ENEB itself, they sometimes also take several months to grade the essay assignments. So some students do all their homework and get their final grade right away, but other students get everything graded except, say, one assignment which takes 3 months to get a grade in. Comparatively speaking (based on reading both here and on campus) it actually seems like very few students are taking the exam route and that, while you have a chance of getting everything fast with the classic route, all exam students get a slow result and slow diploma.
At the same time, just a few years ago, ENEB had only 8,000 students. Now they claim to have over 65,000 students (it doesn't say if that includes students who already graduated or not). The English MBA course alone has over 8,000 students registered in it right now (including students who have assumably graduated). Other online schools have seen a similar explosion of growth since corona hit... Now imagine even just 5% of those students are spamming them with Emails and messages every day. Anyways, I am not blaming them for the slow time.
RE: ENEB - exams - dataneb - 01-17-2024
Those who already went through the ENEB exam: are they same like the tests of each subject? All questions displayed on one site or will each question be displayed separately and you need to navigate through them to check back all at the end?
And did any one of you already get the diplomas and transcript? Still interested how they will differ from the known ones.
RE: ENEB - exams - Voldigoad - 01-18-2024
(01-17-2024, 02:31 PM)dataneb Wrote: Those who already went through the ENEB exam: are they same like the tests of each subject? All questions displayed on one site or will each question be displayed separately and you need to navigate through them to check back all at the end?
And did any one of you already get the diplomas and transcript? Still interested how they will differ from the known ones.
Not sure if I understand correctly, but I believe all questions were on one page without having to switch pages.
In thend you could click something like "Submit" and there was also one warning before final submission iirc.
Took the test in November, but kind of already forgot.
Apparently I will get my diplomas in February, but time will tell.
RE: ENEB - exams - MCDL - 01-19-2024
Honestly, took it this week, finished in about 30 mins approx. Passed easily, it’s just questions from the quizzes.