+- Online Degrees and CLEP and DSST Exam Prep Discussion (https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb)
+-- Forum: Main Category (https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Forum-Main-Category)
+--- Forum: Saylor.org, Straighterline, Study.com, Sophia.Org, Coursera Discussion (https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Forum-Saylor-org-Straighterline-Study-com-Sophia-Org-Coursera-Discussion)
+--- Thread: Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush (/Thread-Ed4Credit-ENG205-English-Comp-II-First-Blush)
Pages:
1
2
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - High_Order1 - 02-06-2017
Ok.
I am not a good college student. I haven't done well so far, A-B's. I struggle.
So, I've done brick and mortar and straighterline for college. On the vocational side, I do well. I've taken tons of training, on and off line, and from a variety of sources. I am very good at testing.
So, I just jumped into the E4C ENG205 course. Here are my first blush, subject-to-revision thoughts. I am not with them, nor getting anything for this review. I rely strongly on word of mouth here, and so here is mine, .<----- that's the grain of salt to compare it to.
I don't like it.
lol
ok, a little more.
The book isn't a book or pdf, it is sort of interactive. I like that it breaks at each chapter. You don't overrun the ends searching manually like in a pdf. The search feature is just about useless. Constant '0 instances of xxxx'. It highlights each word you're looking for, so if you are loading key phrases to catch them in the text, there are 300 'the' lit up, or a zillion 'of' lit up.
In contrast, let's say I have a pdf book. A question is, 'How does one refer to androgyny as a life choice?' I'd put in 'androgyny as' in the search box, and at other places, I'd find that sentence. Like, the book would say 'Androgyny as a life choice would be referred to as something'.
None of the quiz questions work like that. They all require you to infer, rather than simply being lifted from the text. That's buggy to me, because I work by remembering key phrases and how they set up stuff. If I can't find it straight up by a search, I can remember my way back to the area in the text, then run it to ground. There are many questions that have no words that match the text at all.
On the plus side, you get three bites at each apple, and they are untimed. I appreciate that.
In ENC205, there are 8 quizzes and a final. In ENC205, there is a writing assignment per each of the 8 modules. Basically you appear to be bolting together a research paper. (I am tackling the quizzes first, then going back with what I've learned and applying it to building the paper.) You must take the quizzes in module order, success at the current quiz 'unlocks' the next one.
Each quiz so far is 30 questions, and is built on the same platform as SL. Each retake jumbles the questions so you cannot simply rememberize the letters and go back in. They are a mix of 'choose one' types.
I have noticed that they say they pay for your proctorU final, so that is a plus where SL makes you pay for your own PU account.
There is a wealth of additional material in each module, but I have been using the etext solely. Hm. (I'm on break between quizzes. I may check to see if that's what the disconnect is).
The etext is ok. It is following a notional person as they conduct a research project. It is very, very term heavy. But the chapters are smaller than the SL texts, so they are not as taxing as I remember SL's being.
Ok, well, that's the report from the outpost. Nose back to grindstone. I may feel better about it when I am done but for now I feel banghead
I just reread this. Here's a salient point: If you understand the language of academia, and can knock out a good research paper, this would be a ....uh....a.... sigh. You'd like it, and it would be fast credit. I can't put it against a TECEP or DSST, because I don't know if they have writing involved. If they don't, I'd really go test out than this *if you know your stuff*.
For me, it just reinforces that I'm glad I didn't try the test out path for this.
Allright, it's not gonna get done on its own. Well, unless Alexa or Siri has features I am unaware of... lol
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - High_Order1 - 02-06-2017
another point:
When you miss a quiz question, it tells you - chapter 5. That's useless for me. It's the chapter 5 quiz. If I missed it, it's because I couldn't find it. A more descriptive blurb would be beneficial to me, at least....
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - varJosh - 02-06-2017
Not Applicable
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - dfrecore - 02-07-2017
Yes, that course hasn't been approved for credit yet.
If you're worried about taking an English Comp exam, I took the English Comp II TECEP, and did not think it was difficult. I didn't enjoy it or anything, but it was certainly better than all these quizzes and papers and crap. I borrowed the Hodges Harbrace Handbook from the library, put sticky notes on the pages I needed, and that's the entire 5 minutes I spent doing any prep work. It took the test - and it was basically 2 hours of my life and I was done.
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - Synicaal - 02-07-2017
Almost sounds like your describing the SHMOOP courses just more expensive. Think I will pass on these for now.
Part of me wants to attempt the TECEP for Comp II but I already need to take two and don't want to add a third. Although it would actually save me money compared to SL. I'll have to see if they have that handbook at my library and maybe I will pick your brain dfrecore and see where u sticky noted.
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - KayV - 02-07-2017
The OP is working on the Ed4Credit version of English Comp II, not the Study.com version.
There is a new DSST exam for English Comp II called Principles of Advanced English Composition. The main draw is that you don't have to write an essay to get the credits.
http://getcollegecredit.com/assets/pdf/dsst_fact_sheets/DSST_Principles_of_Advanced_English_Composition_2016_-_Fact_Sheet.pdf
Exam Fact Sheets | DSST | Get College Credit
Good luck in completing your Comp II, OP.
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - cookderosa - 02-07-2017
KayV Wrote:The OP is working on the Ed4Credit version of English Comp II, not the Study.com version.
There is a new DSST exam for English Comp II called Principles of Advanced English Composition. The main draw is that you don't have to write an essay to get the credits.
http://getcollegecredit.com/assets/pdf/dsst_fact_sheets/DSST_Principles_of_Advanced_English_Composition_2016_-_Fact_Sheet.pdf
Exam Fact Sheets | DSST | Get College Credit
Good luck in completing your Comp II, OP.
High Order, if you have the cash, attempt the DSST after your quizzes- that will probably prepare you and you'll get to jump over all the essays. There is a code too if you do it between Feb 1, 2017 – Feb 28, 2017 Code: TAKE10OFFNEW (but I don't know how much they take off.....)
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - dfrecore - 02-07-2017
Synicaal Wrote:Almost sounds like your describing the SHMOOP courses just more expensive. Think I will pass on these for now.
Part of me wants to attempt the TECEP for Comp II but I already need to take two and don't want to add a third. Although it would actually save me money compared to SL. I'll have to see if they have that handbook at my library and maybe I will pick your brain dfrecore and see where u sticky noted.
I did it based on the TECEP Study Guide off the TESU website.
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - Ed4Credit - 02-07-2017
Hi High_Order1,
Thanks for the feedback on our English Comp II course. I'm aware that our courses aren't for everyone. If you want to get through a composition course without papers, you will have to take one of the national exams. As Study.com said, papers are now required for English Comp I & II by ACE. As for the eTextbook, it is in the course both as a Vital Source ebook and as a PDF. Did you miss the PDFs? They are in each section (see attached pictures). Thanks again for the feedback. Hope you do great on the ProctorU final!
Tricia
Ed4Credit ENG205 English Comp II First Blush - AJ_Atlanta - 02-07-2017
cookderosa Wrote:High Order, if you have the cash, attempt the DSST after your quizzes- that will probably prepare you and you'll get to jump over all the essays. There is a code too if you do it between Feb 1, 2017 – Feb 28, 2017 Code: TAKE10OFFNEW (but I don't know how much they take off.....)
I think for everyone that is concerned about speed (or simply already knows how to write a paper) this new DSST is going to be the go to exam, just waiting to see some feedback on it